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I still find it incredible that a YR teacher can be paid the same as an English Lit teacher at A Level.

Discussion in 'Personal' started by The Red Heron, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. I find your comments disgraceful. As a foundation stage teacher i work just as hard as you. Fair enough i know nothing about Chaucer etc, but what do you know about the EYFS document? About dealing with children unable to speak English at all? About dealing with children with severe emotional difficulties?

    You are a disgrace to the profession and if I knew you had been in my school I would report you to your agency.

  2. anon2799

    anon2799 New commenter

  3. inky

    inky Lead commenter

    More to the point [since secondary teachers have their probems too] what does the OP know about teaching reading and all the rest of it?

  4. midnight_angel

    midnight_angel Senior commenter

    I just hope to dear God that Heron didn't leave school at 3.45 today louding declaring what a nice easy day he had and how reception teachers don't deserve their pay, because he might have another call into the office again if he did ...

    (I know that is probably harsh, and I am really pleased that things worked out for Heron yesterday, but I do find his comments on here disgraceful and worrying)
  5. I demand that Red Heron be banned from this site!!! All in agreement sign below
  6. I teach science and maths at secondary level, including A level. My subject knowledge is excellent.
    No way would I like to take on YR. I simply do not have the necessary skills set. I take my hat off to those of you in primary. Different to secondary but no less difficult! Good on you!

  7. anon2799

    anon2799 New commenter

    On the positive side, what Red Heron has done has revealed the mutual respect MOST teachers have for eachother across the phases; so it's not all bad
  8. tafkam

    tafkam Occasional commenter


    I'm sure there are more eloquent ways I could have put that, but the essence would have remained the same.
    And I speak as someone who specialises in the middle years and could teach neither A-level literature or a Reception class for more than 30 minutes without being rumbled.

  9. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Oh get real, for heaven's sake. You might not like what he said, but posting a thread you don't agree with isn't against the T&Cs.

    FWIW I was secondary trained and taught Chaucer every year. I drowned in marking and coursework, but no way could I have taught EYs then, let alone now.

  10. Some good posts recently. I started off as an MFL teacher teaching French and German up to A level and I have now changed to SEN where I am teaching 12 year olds who are around the level of reception up to year 2. Both are hard in different ways. I don't think I could teach 4 or 5 year olds! The A level stuff was challenging on my degree knowledge but my current teaching challenges me in so many different ways. There is so much paperwork and also the challenge of teaching children to read from scratch! Also I'm having to adopt all the latest ASD strategies and constantly link everything to IEP targets and statement objectives.

    All teaching is hard, just in different ways!
  11. Victoria Plum

    Victoria Plum New commenter

    Couldn't have put it better myself, Fiona!

    VP xx
  12. The Red Heron

    The Red Heron New commenter

    I have this wrong then, fair enough.

    Happyshopper-grow up.
  13. tafkam

    tafkam Occasional commenter

    I actually think my bit is easiest... right in the middle. No toilet issues, not too many demanding content issues.[​IMG]
  14. anon2799

    anon2799 New commenter

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    I have this wrong then, fair enough.

    I'm impressed - takes a lot to admit you're wrong

  15. Thanks VP :)

    Well even though I'm teaching 12-14 year olds in my class I still have toilet issues and other 'intimate care' issues as I'm in SEN!
  16. As a supply teacher I do find that days in Reception tend to be fairly easy as is Nursery. HOWEVER this is only because of the vast amount of preparation and organisation of the regular teachers (talkking day to day supply here, not long term) and also the fact that there are usually several support staff to help you out. The reason it is is easy is because as supply you only have to do a teeny tiny part of the job. It's a bit like babysitting for a couple of hours and thinking it is equivalent to being a parent!
  17. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    There's something really nice about a thread where someone says something contraversial, the majority make their points really eloquently and the minority concedes that they were wrong!

  18. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    What an excellent analogy!
  19. Thank you!
  20. The whole problem for me is that a 'Supply Teacher' should be prepared to teach not 'babysit'.
    It is all about attitude.
    'It's a bit like babysitting for a couple of hours and thinking it is equivalent to being a parent!'
    Maybe this is the reason so much supply now is being offered to Cover Supervisors.


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