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I Love Michael Gove

Discussion in 'Education news' started by dunnocks, Jul 26, 2017.

  1. dleaf12

    dleaf12 Lead commenter

    The Property may be retained, but what about the education budget spend? - much of that cash flow ends up diverted to the "service providers" chosen by the MAT's - which thus get to cash in on a previously unaccessible gravy-train. ( nepotistically awarded contracts, or at best, services from the cheapest, not the most effective bidder, thus allowing outrageous executive salaries to siphon cash out of the "non-profit" "charity").
  2. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    How do you imagine this differs from Local Authority procurement?
    Not really the point. The claim was that £10 Billion of property has been given away.
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  3. schoolsout4summer

    schoolsout4summer Star commenter

    Ponce, what is inaccurate?
  4. peggylu

    peggylu Star commenter

    Thank you for explaining the reasoning behind your statement.
  5. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    Lol. 'Ponce'? - Easy oldschooler.

    Are you suggesting I am a pimp or just making a traditional homophobic remark?
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  6. schoolsout4summer

    schoolsout4summer Star commenter

    Sorry. I forgot to put my specs on.
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  7. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    @Moony, its just too big, its like if I was saying that I agree deforestation is damaging to the environment, and you say you disagree, and want citations, there is just no place to start.

    yes it is, for that one group. Are you outside of the UK? Any UK science teacher would know who the Royal society is, you can look them up, there is only one.

    Are you near or past retiring? I can understand not keeping up with current developments if they are not in your area of interest, and you are maybe at the end of your career, but really, this is huge, and you can look up many different aspects and groups for yourself.

    I can't click the link @FrankWolley , but if it is talking about the end of private vehicle ownership, I couldn't agree more! totally profligate, not sustainable, and should already have been curtailed, if not outright banned.. we are behind where we should be there!

    But still believe that artificial photosynthesis is going to be very much part of the solution, and the new order that supersedes our current life style.
  8. Moony

    Moony Lead commenter

    Then pick something, anything really, as a starting point.....hell the thing that you first read to make you think this wasn't a fools erand would probably be as good a start as anything.

    The Royal Society of what? Are you sure it's the Royal Society or is it the Royal Institute? I go to google and put in the term royal Society I get offering of medicine/chemistry/arts from the autocomplete, you've given me very little to go on.

    I've asked you to show me some of the science that makes you think that it can happen and you are to all intent and purpose saying no, so I don't have to accept what you are saying. I've indicated that I am willing to fairly view your point but you are showing that you are unwilling to meet me.

    To assume that any science teacher/scientist can track every scientific advancement is also incorrect, there will be loads and the shear volume of journals published would be too many for anyone actively pursuing a science role to keep up with. I work and study part time, so I've got less time to read science that doesn't have a direct bearing on the areas which I am focusing on. Or do I not get to have time for my own personal interests?
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  9. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

  10. Moony

    Moony Lead commenter

    There are a number of Royal Society of X out there.
  11. SomethingWicked

    SomethingWicked Occasional commenter

    "You might be a doctor, but I'm THE Doctor, the definite article"

    Sorry, couldn't help but think of that.
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  12. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    There is THE Royal Institute. There are other Royal institutes and societies but they have a qualifying word in the title such as the Royal Society of Chemistry.
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  13. Moony

    Moony Lead commenter

    I'm more familiar with their being The Royal Institute than there being The Royal Society.
  14. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    Back when I was doing my degree the Chemical Society joined with the Royal Institite of Chemistry to become the Royal Society of Chemistry. They issued my degree, however my first LA employer initially refused to recognise the degree as it 'wasn't in their book'. Which was a dog eared ancient tome which still have the old names in. It took several phone calls (pre email days) to get them to recognise my qualification and give me the job.
    Moony likes this.
  15. Moony

    Moony Lead commenter

    There are a number of institutes and societies around that it is easy enough for someone to not be aware of all of them, even if some of the bigger ones are in the list someone not aware of.
  16. Alldone

    Alldone Senior commenter

    One of the best training courses I ever went on was a three day residential paid for by the Worshipful Company of Horners. This was a trade guide set up by manufacturers of English Horn in the 14th Century. Horn is a natural polymer so if you heat it up (steam) it will become flexible and can be moulded in to shapes such as drinking vessels or buttons. Anyway, as man made plastics came in, their buisness disappeared, but not the Horners society. Now here is the best thing - they had large investments over several Centuries and decided to use the interest from this to pay for education in Chemistry in Schools. So here was I, all dressed up having a fantastic meal at the end of the course in the Guildhall in London. Happy days.
  17. applecrumblebumble

    applecrumblebumble Lead commenter

    I agree these companies do give excellent courses, in my day it was Salters rather than Horners because they supported physics. Of course them were the days when you were in charge of your own CPD instead of having it dictated to you. Another organisation were the Goldsmiths who used to put on ll sorts of training which allowed you see how various science was applied. I got to see how Thames water purified Londons water, how the O2 dome used recycled water and had a look inside the Thames barrage and the Thames flooding alleviation construction. It was like a breath of fresh air and sent me back to school inspired. Oh well those were the days.
  18. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    How can a teacher have not heard of the Royal Society? You know, Isaac Newton and stuff, lectures broadcast on national and international TV...
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  19. Moony

    Moony Lead commenter

    I think you'll find it's the Royal Institution (so I did make a slight mistake on that) that does the lectures etc...oh look, a link.

  20. drek

    drek Star commenter

    The Royal Society no longer have any direct links with schools or even most teacher training pathways.....not for a long time now. RSC might have their annual Christmas lectures which invites students. They are great for researching journals if one has plenty of time......
    As a Physics specialist for example I keep myself professionally updated via the IOP (royal chartered) or ASE or STEM links and or memberships and other subjects have their own institutes/associations/societies which offer current cpd opportunities or more importantly relevant resources with our constantly changing policies and curriculums.

    I know about the Royal Society but it has not really been of any real practical help in my career so far.........
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