ghome, we know fine well why these kids act the way they do, but our mental survival technique is to make light of their behaviour. It's vital to approach this profession with a well-developed sense of humour, or it can be a ghastly experience for both teacher and pupils. There is not a day goes by when one of my pupils will come out with something unexpected. I've had a "Quote Book" going on my desktop since 2006 and the kids are delighted to appear on it. Realistically though, just like adults, kids can be damnably annoying at times; demanding, strident, selfish, abusive... But the next day, that same child can do something incredibly selfless or kind. PS. nick909, you are a LEGEND. It's how teacher's respond to these moments that can be brilliant!