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I just want to teach!

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by gamble, Apr 1, 2011.

  1. but it really does not look like it's going to happen. After completing my degree in my late twenties, being accepted a very highly respected uni to do my pgce I have since qualifying in 2009 been unable to secure a permanent position so have not yet started induction. I have undertaken a couple of ou courses to expand my knowledge to make me more employable. I have followed to the letter Theo's application advice. I have undertaken supply work, networked and made friends within schools but it does not seem to be enough. I love my subject and just want to enthuse the kids to feel like I do about it- but no, I just need a break and no-one wants to give me one ggrrrr
    what left is there for me to do??
    Rant over!
     
  2. vou

    vou

    I hear what you're saying!! I feel for you!! Your title -'I just want to teach!' sums up how I feel too and I'm probably not the only one!! :}
     
  3. lillipad

    lillipad New commenter

    My advice is to supply teach to the max, get your name in the schools and really put in loads of effort. Be very friendly, be lovely with the kids and mark the work and leave the classroom in a lovely state with a friendly message. You'd be surprised how far it goes. I was in your position and I got a job through doing supply. Good luck
     
  4. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Rant away,Gamble, you are supported by all of us here in your ranting, as we know how hard it is for you NQTs.
    Normally 80% of NQTs, by Christmas, are in induction. Last year's NQTs - only 46% had jobs by january, and the 2009 cohort like you still had 34% out of a job. And now the 2011 lot are Job Seeking too - at a time when the number of jobs advertised has falkled between a quarter and a third from last year.
    Masses more applicants, masses fewer jobs. The competition is really fierce.
    You sound as though you have been doing all the right things about making yourself more employable.
    I feel that you have been let down quite a bit by your University.
    In my experience, the PGCE and BEd courses do NOT do a good job in helping their students to apply for jobs.
    Today I have been doing One-to-One interviews at TES headquarters, helping people with their executive summaries, applications and interview technique. I see some very good teachers who have masses to offer a school, but don't have the foggiest idea about "setting out their stall" and showing the schools what a great contribution they could make.
    You will have read about Belle de Jour, and how she got a job.
    Dear Theo.....I got the job!!!!!
    She has posted quite a few times saying that in the seminar she learnt things that she hadn't the foggiest idea about. If an Old Hand like Belle needed our help in the Job seminars, you can imagine how hard it is for NQTs!
    I really do think that your Uni could have done a better job for you.
    That's my rant over!
    Good luck to you nonetheless.
    ______________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews. The next Job Application seminar where you can meet me is tomorrow Saturday 2 April.

    This is the last Job seminar that I shall do for some time, so to get a head start, come along! The enrolment is open until midnight tonight.

    http://tesweekendworkshop19.eventbrite.com/
    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
    http://tesweekendworkshop24.eventbrite.com/
    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  5. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    No, sorry.
    I get the stats from the EDS service, part of the TES.
    But from memory, only from memory, I believe that the 2007 and 2008 cohorts were the last two to be "normal", i.e. with 80% in jobs by Christmas.
    It was the 2009 and 2010 cohorts that started having problems.
    ______________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews. The next Job Application seminar where you can meet me is tomorrow Saturday 2 April.

    This is the last Job seminar that I shall do for some time, so to get a head start, come along! The enrolment is open until midnight tonight.

    http://tesweekendworkshop19.eventbrite.com/
    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
    http://tesweekendworkshop24.eventbrite.com/
    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  6. lillipad

    lillipad New commenter

    Really? That's interesting because there was a very large number of us floating around in 2008 after completing! Although most now have some sort of job, I still know a couple who haven't yet. And I couldn't say that many even have permanent jobs, myself included!! It's so difficult!
     
  7. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Dear Hannah
    The answer is - possibly!
    If there is a proven demand, the TES may put another one on.
    Today's evaluations were just as positive as the last ones have been, with people saying how delighted they were with what they got, so we are sure that those who attend will find it very useful.
    If you could get a gang of you all to e-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com and say, for example, that you would like to have a Job Application seminar with Theo on 14 May (a Saturday), then if they saw that there was demand, one might be put on.
    Best wishes
    (P.S. I just love doing them and meeting you all and helping you with your problems.)
    ______________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
    http://tesweekendworkshop24.eventbrite.com/
    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  8. I qualified in 2008 and finally got a permenant post last September. I agree with the post (sorry forget who, but read Theo's and got ditracted!) that said do supply. I was known in the school and it was the head who asked me if I was applying.
    Stick with it.
    Love
    Hasmat
     
  9. Moony

    Moony Lead commenter

    I qualified back in 2007 and whilst I've had either permanent, long term supply or plenty of day to day supply since then I'm in the boat where I'm yet to get a job teaching my specialism. I'm science and can do the main 3 at GCSE but my subject is Geology which is fairly niche, when I've been turned down for jobs in the past the thing i get when it comes to feedback is often the lovely catch-22 that is lack of experience. So even for some of us with work it can still be frustrating. Hang on in there and hopefully your luck will change!
     
  10. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Well, others have, and so Julia has set up a Job Application seminar for 14 May - a Saturday.
    Here's what the feedback was from the one last Saturday:
    • Frankly, the best delivered seminar I have ever attended.
    • This has been a very useful and well organised seminar with practical tips for improving the difficult task of selling yourself.
    • Excellent advice, thank you!
    • This has been terrific and has really met my needs
    • Very useful. Excellent advice
    • Excellent!
    • Very good. Thank you!
    • This has reinforced some points but was particularly useful for writing a personal statement
    • A really useful course that I intend to use right away so I can get my next teaching post. Thank you!
    • I had to think really hard about what to suggest as a way of improvements. The pace was perfect and unlike some CPD activities, the practical sessions were enjoyable and useful.
    • I am really pleased I stumbled on the info. Thank you very much.
    • I feel a lot more confident!
    • I fully enjoyed the seminar and it has taught me a great deal. Specifically I found the practical activities very useful
    • Excellent. Thank you!
    • I was so grateful. Very informative and taught me so much more. Thank you!!
    • Excellent organisation! Very practical, enjoyable and useful seminar
    • Fantastic presenters, very useful, highly recommended.
    • I'm feeling more confident and optimistic which I think is a great start!
    • Fabulous, really helpful!
    • Thank you Theo!
    Saturday 14 May. Book now while there are still places. Julia has just e-mailed me to say that some people have started booking already!
    www.tesweekendworkshop25.eventbrite.com<font size="2" color="#0000ff"> </font>
    Best wishes
    _____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    By popular demand! In response to Tessers e-mailing in: another Job Seminar now on Saturday 14th May:
    www.tesweekendworkshop25.eventbrite.com
    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
    http://tesweekendworkshop24.eventbrite.com/
    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  11. jemlouisehunt

    jemlouisehunt New commenter

    . Lillipad- I think us NQTs from 2008 have just been forgotten about! I am an NQT who graduated from a well known uni in 2008 and am yet to start my induction due to lack of jobs. We had no support from our uni and we're basically old news and don't seem to matter about anymore and because of the stupid 16 month rule many are now having to look at alternative jobs. Everyone goes on about how 2009/2010 had it bad but I know loads of people from 2008 who are not in the jobs they trained for as there were no jobs and no-one was leaving there secure jobs for fear of not being able to find another job!
     
  12. jemlouisehunt

    jemlouisehunt New commenter

    Yes there is still a limit of supply for NQT unless you start your induction. I think it's ridiculous that it has not been reviewed or at least relaxed with a recession going on! You have 16 months where you can do supply before starting your induction and many councils will grant you a years extension on top of this should you not have started your NQT year by the end of the 16 months. The 16 months starts counting down from the first day you start supply which does not count towards your induction.
     
  13. Gamble,
    I qualified 2009 and still haven't landed a perm job. I'm always positive in school but I feel very angry at how hard it is for us. You sound really genuine and keen, like me, but getting our foot in the door is almost impossible. You're not alone and you mustn't give up. If you're in your late twenties, again, like me, you've had time to consider that this career path is the one that makes sense although our situation makes us question that choice, which is ridiculous! someone, somewhere won't let us slip through the net!
    God bless
    (ps there's nothing like a good rant)
     
  14. I feel for you also! I have been teaching 10 years (came into it late) and was made redundant nearly 5 years ago. I cannot find a permanent job either!! Too expensive, too old .....although neither is admitted by schools. Have applied for 19 jobs this year .... not one interview. I also JUST WANT TO TEACH!!!
    What can be done? Too many teachers being trained ....need to cap the PGCE intake and other teacher training courses.
    What do others think?????
    MY rant is over too .....for the time being lol
     
  15. Belthazor

    Belthazor New commenter

    I think the job market is really fierce at the moment anyway - regardless of when you trained. I think anyone looking to get a new job/post at the moment is going to find it really tough.
    I think a lot of PGCE providers don't provide adequate preparation for this, ranging from CV/application letter preparation, to interview practise.
    Are all the failed bankers who put us into a recession in the first place still jumping into "our job market" with 6 month PGCEs?
     
  16. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    I know it is.
    Fewer jobs being advertised. Large numbers of unemployed teachers. Redundancies in some schools.
    Fierce is not the word for it.
    _____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    By popular demand! In response to Tessers e-mailing in: another Job Seminar now on Saturday 14th May:
    www.tesweekendworkshop25.eventbrite.com
    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
    http://tesweekendworkshop24.eventbrite.com/
    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  17. Get a job teaching overseas. Good money. Great lifestyle and very rewarding.
     
  18. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    But slim chance of getting job back in UK at the moment.
    And no final-salary pension . . . Mind you, that may not last for long here either!
    _____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    By popular demand! In response to Tessers e-mailing in: another Job Seminar now on Saturday 14th May:
    www.tesweekendworkshop25.eventbrite.com
    The next Moving onto Leadship seminar is Sunday 15th May.
    http://tesweekendworkshop24.eventbrite.com/
    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
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  20. Thanks for that jemlouisehunt. Was just hoping against hope that they had changed the rules! No such luck !
    Kookigirl - still job hunting !!!
     

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