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I have some questions about Teacher Training - Please help.

Discussion in 'Art and design' started by JamesMurray1988, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. Hello,

    I am thinking about doing a teaching qualification next year as I aim to become and FE Art lecturer.
    I have started researching courses and have found they vary wildly in price. For example The University of Brighton (where I did my BA) charges £9,000 for the Post-Compulsory PGCE whereas my local college charges £1,600. Is it safe to assume that the price generally reflects the quality of the course or is it more a case of location and prestige?

    From what I have read on various forums and on the prospect website I understand I will need to complete PGCE or PCE followed by a QTLS. I am a little confused as to what the QTLS is and how to obtain it?

    I would like to do an in-service PGCE, is this going to be possible seeing as I have no teaching experience? Does the teaching have to be paid or could it be on a voluntary basis?

    Finally, I have not found many art FE teaching posts online, particularly in the area I live (London/South East) I know FE has been hit with major cuts in recent years, is FE teaching really a viable career option these days? I do not want to be scraping around for work once qualified!

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Best

    James
     
  2. Hello,

    I am thinking about doing a teaching qualification next year as I aim to become and FE Art lecturer.
    I have started researching courses and have found they vary wildly in price. For example The University of Brighton (where I did my BA) charges £9,000 for the Post-Compulsory PGCE whereas my local college charges £1,600. Is it safe to assume that the price generally reflects the quality of the course or is it more a case of location and prestige?

    From what I have read on various forums and on the prospect website I understand I will need to complete PGCE or PCE followed by a QTLS. I am a little confused as to what the QTLS is and how to obtain it?

    I would like to do an in-service PGCE, is this going to be possible seeing as I have no teaching experience? Does the teaching have to be paid or could it be on a voluntary basis?

    Finally, I have not found many art FE teaching posts online, particularly in the area I live (London/South East) I know FE has been hit with major cuts in recent years, is FE teaching really a viable career option these days? I do not want to be scraping around for work once qualified!

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Best

    James
     
  3. Hi , I have just completed my post compulsary education and training pgce at Sunderland university a lot of the college courses are affiliated by a university but I think they are a lot less layed back ect.. We met some people on a course who where doing it at a college and there experiences appeared to be different.

    To do a in service you need to be already employed as a teAcher but not qualified which is quite common in FE. I did pre service where i had a placement at a college for 2 days a week teaching fine art students a level and foundation degree. Then went to university for 2 days a week an a day for study !

    I got a £5000 bursary for the course which helped with travel as my placement wasnt close to home and neither is Sunderland as I live in Middlesbrough . I found the course really good and the teaching experience was excellent you need to secure a good placement which at Sunderland the placement was found for you however some
    Corses ask you to find your own !

    Hope this helps

    Any other questions let me know

    Jola_01@hotmail.com
     
  4. Lottes

    Lottes New commenter

    If you gained a First Class degree you get a £9000 bursary, £5000 for a 2:1, but you have to pay the full £9000 if you gained a 2:2 or below. Not sure about the college price you state- not for a PGCE as far as I'm aware?
     
  5. pvrussell

    pvrussell New commenter

    Please DO NOT DO POST COMPULSORY PGCE - it is a rip off. I did a PGCE post compulsory at Brighton uni in 2013. I was told that this would qualify me as QTLS. I then worked as a lecturer in a voluntary capacity the year I undertook and passed the PGCE to gather evidence of practice. I was then employed by the college in the following year and given a Teacher Reference Number so I assumed I was qualified. After a two year break for personal reasons I have registered with teaching agencies and since discovered that I am in fact NOT QUALIFIED AS A TEACHER IN ANY CAPACITY. I could have worked in FE without the PGCE and am not a qualified teacher for 14 and above as the university told me I would be. Only if a school hires me as unqualified and agrees to pay for a 4 week course with Society for Education and Training can i get qualified...never going to happen, so wasted a year and £9000. Do not do this course, it is a rip off
     

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