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Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by suzannefedderholdt, Sep 21, 2020.

  1. suzannefedderholdt

    suzannefedderholdt New commenter

    I am so embarrassed. I have done 1-1 interview coaching. Asked for feedback. Applied for 100s of jobs. I have had at least 50 interviews in the last 4 years after qualifying as an art and design secondary teacher.

    I am broken and feel dejected and ashamed.

    Can anyone recommend to me what to do because I can't go on like this. I keep trying and when I ask for feedback very rarely get negative feedback.

    I feel like giving up in every sense of the word.

    What am I doing wrong? I have done personal development courses in order to be positive and think the right things to attract a good job into my life.

    I am so fed up and I feel genuinely sick in my stomach. I have debt because of it etc etc

  2. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Well first of all, don't be 'embarrassed'.
    You have been successful at gaining your teaching qualification.

    The 'problem' you've encountered may in fact be twofold.
    1 is that Art and Design Technology posts do not come up very often. The subject is not one of the priority subjects needing many teachers in the department.
    2 This year is a particularly difficult year to be job-seeking.

    I know I was a qualified teacher trying to return to teaching but it took me over 16 years of I can't tell you how many applications to actually gain a full-time post. Like yours my 'specialism' was a low priority one not offered in many schools and of course I was tied to area, by my husband's job and a young family.

    There's unlikely to be many jobs advertised before next March, so my advice is that you need to be thinking of looking for any stop-gap job you can find, before the next round of resignation dates happen.
    And of course consider any stop-gap temporary positions.
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  3. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    I'm going to answer in 2 sections.

    Firstly answer for Art & Design for our colleague above

    Secondly some general advice for job applicants.

    So, Art & Design. Yes, not a big demand, i agree with @Lara mfl 05 there. So make yourself more sellable.

    Can you offer ALL the A&D specialisms? Say so, dont just mention your favourite.

    Can you, could you if you put your mind to it, offer some DT options, at leadt to KS3?

    Ditto, any other subject you could offer at KS3. Maths, English, History...What other subjects could you drag up to say that you would wish to be flexible to help with timetabling.

    And do you have an on-line portfolio that you link to in your applications? Examples of your own work and also if possible anonymous examples of student work. Pretty basic for any creative application.

    Now for the general application advice. I'll start with some questions. They are really rhetorical, you know the answers, I don't need to be told them, you need to answer them to yourself and then act on them.

    Q1 How good is your application?

    Is it fulfilling its main aim: to show the school that you should be shortlisted and interviewed as the preferred candidate already, going into the interview with this big advantage?

    Q2 So how can you improve it?

    Q3 How good is your interview, is it fulfilling their expectation of you as the preferred candidate, allowing you to demonstrate why they need you, and making you the obvious choice?

    Q4 See Q2

    So, your applications may not be doing you justice, not showcasing effectively your strengths and skills, and what you have to offer a school. And then the interview (oh how we all hate interviews!) may not be helping you clinch that job either.

    Because above all, you need to show how what you have to offer fits EXACTLY with what the specific school is looking for, in your application and then in the interview. Each school is different, you can't have a One-Size-Fits-All application, you know.

    The easiest way to do this, of course, is to do a nice neat Executive Summary.

    Go to TES Resources, where I've put up a free template for an E.S. for you to download, to save you having to faff around with the formatting. There are some notes there for how to use it, but here it is even more briefly.

    In the LH column you put what the school is looking for, taken from their person specification. You'll have to prioritise, select the main things, condense it a little, of course.

    Then in the RH you put in neat note form exactly how you meet their requirements. Simple as that!

    So that would be your starting point for an effective application.

    You would use this E.S. also as the starting point for your Mind Map for interview preparation, of course.

    For further support if you feel that you need it, I suggest that you have a look on Amazon for a book to download straight away to the free Kindle app on your phone, tablet or laptop, that will give you more tips and help with application writing, the support to just push that application into the Must-Have category.

    Search on Amazon for books called "Applying for a teaching job" or similar, there will be quite a few books to consider. Choose one that is not American (you're not applying for a job in Los Angeles!), and have a look at the reviews to select one that seems to be helpful. Ditto for Interview for a teaching job.

    I bet also that like any well-brought-up Britisher, you are slightly uncomfortable about blowing your own trumpet. :) But in a subtle way, that's what you need to do! You need to define what are your USPs - your unique selling points, what's so special about you that you can "sell" to the school. And how and when to use them, especially in the interview, is quite important.

    Because it is a selling job, you know, both in the application and the interview. But I'm sure that you'll find a book that will help you with all that, E.S., USP and all the rest!

    I am not as pessimistic as Lara about there being no jobs advertised until the Spring. I think that, sadly, some teachers may find the new conditions in schools just too much, so may be resigning bt 31 October.

    So make sure that you've got TES Alerts set up for jobs, and look regularly at your LA jobs page.

    Very best of luck to you

    Twitter @Theo_Griff
  4. suzannefedderholdt

    suzannefedderholdt New commenter

    Thank you for your reply.
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  5. suzannefedderholdt

    suzannefedderholdt New commenter

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  7. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Try Theo Griff
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  8. thejudgesscoresarein

    thejudgesscoresarein Established commenter

    Have you considered widening your skill set? Usually Art Teachers, they teach textiles and food tech too, can you teach these subjects? Might be worth opening your options. If not, is it something you’ve considered?

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