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I always wanted to be an ICT Teacher but am unsure of what route to take?

Discussion in 'Computing and ICT' started by binthaider, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. I'm female, full-time Mom, in my late 20's and always wanted to be an ICT teacher (secondary school). -
    I really want to make a start now as I couldn't before. -

    I have the following qualifications:-
    Teaching Assistant Level 2 -
    Teaching Assistant Level 3 -
    Level 1 and 2 in Literacy Skills (equiv to GCSE A-C) -
    Level 1 and 2 in Numeracy Skills (equiv to GCSE A-C) -
    I did a practical computing course which i fully completely and is equiv to BTec (10 yrs ago) but due to the college going into receivership the certification isn't recognized! -

    I have always LOVED computers but the practical sides of it, NOT the engineering. -

    Ca somebody please advise me in what possible routes to take? And what courses look out for? Can I study at college rather than Uni? Study at home? -
    I have young kids so i am worried about the financial side too. -

    I always 'made-do' with things and I really want to do something that I know i'm going to love and enjoy... don't like the idea of uni but i'm sure i will have to force myself to get over it.

    Advise needed. Thank You so much in advance!
     
  2. I would be very careful about becoming an ICT teacher at present. There are not a lot of jobs out there and the future of the subject is not secure.
     
  3. I agree with the above poster - it is a worrying place to be at the moment.
    Do Maths with ICT as a sideline.
     
  4. Yes, I agree. My father told me that in the early 80s when we were discussing the PGCE options ; there'll always be jobs for Maths teachers.
     
  5. Am I wrong or do you need to have a degree to train to be a teacher so therefore have to do that first and then do a PGCE route or other?
     
  6. Generally you would need to have a degree... I would also say there is something of a surplus of ICT teachers with many NQT struggling to find their first position, if you are starting from scratch then I would say study maths and offer ICT as a sideline.
     
  7. Nohistorygirl, I was reading your post with interest, and thought you were making sensible points, but feel I have to respond to your last sentence."Prepare to join proper teachers..." How dare you?
    It is true that there are many non-specialists teaching ICT in schools, myself included, but to say we are not proper teachers is, at best, a gross generalisation. Some may have applied for ICT positions, but many have found this added to their timetables and have had to adapt.
    I have taught for twenty years, and I can honestly say that all colleagues I have worked with in similar situations (whatever the subject) have tried their very best, and their "qualified" colleagues have also supported as much as they can.
    If there is a move to computing, then I know the choice for me is clear, - either teach it to myself and then on to the students, or lose my job. I agree entirely with your point about having specialist teachers, but some of us have tried our best and feel quite despairing of the future.
    Have a heart!
     
  8. My heart is black and gangrenous! For too long, we have made excuses in ICT, all the way back to when GNVQs were introduced. Yes, teachers have been mucked about. Yes, non specialists have been roped in. Yes, ICT has become a sort of vehicle for getting everyone to look intelligent by dumbing this subject down and then making it worth loads of GCSEs. But this is wrong. We are not there for teachers' careers or Government league tables. We are (or were) there to teach a rigorous subject. The constant dumbing down of ICT, both in its wishy washy content and allowing non-specialists in to teach it has all but killed off the subject and certainly made it a laughing stock. What we have now is a nothing subject, like media studies or business studies. What we need to do is to get a spade, bury all ICT qualifications at least 6 foot under (and preferably more, just in case it has zombie blood in it) and start again completely with Computing. And those who cannot teach Computing or who cannot retrain to teach it to a high standard, sorry, but you're out.
     
  9. They are doing that on precious little evidence.
    Really? Where was this statement in the report? Please give me the page number and paragraph - let's be realistic - you won't be able to as it's complete ********.
    Remind me of those.
    A real deep thinker - never says anything witout having carefully thought it through first - not. And his word really is his bond.
    What - you mean the Computer Science bores, teaching in grammar schools who have precious little grip on the day-to-day reality of teaching in real schools? That amounts to what - 5 teachers on here, half of them, mymouse socks (including 'nohistorygirl'?) .
    The best bet for any teacher interested in Computing / ICT is to teach Maths with ICT as a sideline - Computer Science is such a laughably unpopular minority subject that it isn't on the most peripheral radar of almost all Head Teachers. Kids hate it thanks to its abysmal pass rate and poor results, head teachers, too.
    Have a look at how many adverts there are for Computer Science teachers - that would be zero. It really is comical
    I do wish these idiots would stop posting on the ICT forum and get their own.




     
  10. tjra

    tjra Occasional commenter

    Newsflash: Computing fanatics ruin yet another topic on these forums spouting the same drivel you can read on any other topic.
     
  11. Captain Obvious

    Captain Obvious New commenter

    That's just unrealistic and fanciful thinking. While computing deserves more time, realistically we need most people to be able to use Word and Excel properly - everything else is gravy.
    That is not a reason to exclude computing, but it is a reason to ensure that it remains only one part of the broader ICT curriculum to develop thinking skills.
    Revolution is rarely effective compared to evolution - the subject needs broad appeal that Computing alone doesn't have. There are useful skills in ICT we shouldn't get rid of in the race to be seen as a "proper" subject.
     
  12. This may or may not happen, but if it does it might reduce the subject from one that most people do to one that hardly anyone does. We could be the next MFL.
    Having said that NHGs advice is sound. If you can do computing you will not struggle with ICT which is relatively trivial in many schools. And if you have Maths that gives you job security and options.
     
  13. This may well be because of the dire way it is taught.
     
  14. In a lot of schools there aren't. That's the problem. Yes, there is the potential for there to be useful skills in ICT, I'd agree, and it can be done much better - I'm sure many of those attacking CS do that. DJP obviously does
    But they aren't in the majority ; a lot of ICT in schools is dire, toss up shall we do Powerpoint or Publisher today and mindless handle turning for valueless qualifications.

     
  15. Captain Obvious

    Captain Obvious New commenter

    Oh, I fully appreciate that many schools play the system. The trap that ICT has created for itself does need to be broken - the assessment and delivery in particular.
    The content that we deliver does have merit, though, and while it is often devalued by those in seek of a quick result, it does not mean it should be dumped. Does it need broadening? Certainly. I faced with that exact PowerPoint vs Publisher toss up soon with year 7, and frankly I want to break it with something a little different.
    Maybe I'll through in some Flash, maybe I'll get highly optimistic and try some mediator (probably a bridge too far there), but either way I don't want to use office since I'll have done two presentations by that point and the following unit will be Publisher...and I'll do it as much to challenge myself as to challenge my pupils.
     
  16. clickschool

    clickschool New commenter

    Apoligies if reposting this link as I haven't been following all the posts. It might be interesting to some - about the PM backing programming...
    http://www.develop-online.net/news/39113/Prime-Minister-backs-programming-education-reform
    I see the delivery of ICT and/or Computing being down to supply and demand. This is why I want to get KS3 students excited about ICT so they'll want to choose it at KS4 should it become an option. I was speaking about this not so long ago.
    Just from reading the above post - a valid point about assessment. Some courses appear designed to see the ultimate demise of ICT. Yes, they are more interesting in terms of the topics and organisation, though as far as assessment is concerned, are open to abuse. And it's down to greed at multiple levels in wanting to get results. Just look at the banking sector.
    A lot of the concepts concerning design or building ICT solutions remain the same, so I wouldn't get too bogged down with particular platforms or software - but let it progress with the times.
     
  17. There are 4 pages of jobs on the TES website this morning (25 classroom teacher, 10 or so HoD or Subject Leader), and the lead up to Christmas is not exactly a busy time for recruitment. Recruitment levels would appear to be perfectly normal.
     
  18. And zero Computer Science jobs..........
     

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