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Hunt wants EU military force to sort out the problem with Iran

Discussion in 'Personal' started by lunarita, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. lunarita

    lunarita Established commenter

    Isn't the push for an EU force one of the arguments cited by brexiters against continuing within the EU?

    Seems the might be some benefits to it after all.
     
  2. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Can't Trump help out?

    Oh.
     
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  3. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    Although any military action should be the job of NATO , of which we will remain a member (I hope :oops:)
     
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  4. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    It takes time to work out why Russia wanted the USA to have a puppet president, influenced the pawns in UK politics to move as they did, when they did, as leave us in a precarious position where we'll be as dependent as Assad was on their help, which we will be, after Brexit and have to rely on trade deals with Russia and its other puppet governments to supply us with food and goods.

    Ironic isn't it that Russia was able to do it by manipulation of far-right rhetoric.

    Just a thought...
     
  5. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

  6. lunarita

    lunarita Established commenter

    Odd indeed and scary, post brrexit, if we can't rely on NATO

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-49076294
     
  7. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    It's clear who our allies are......

    Mr Hunt said the UK would develop a maritime protection mission with other European nations to allow ships to pass through the area safely.

    The foreign secretary secured support for the initiative from both French and German foreign ministers on the phone on Sunday evening, the BBC has been told.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-49076294

    The UK must be responsible for the safety of its own ships in the Gulf, the US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, has said.

    His remarks reflect unresolved tensions between Britain and the US over Donald Trump’s plans for a US-led military convoy to protect international shipping operating off the Iranian coast.

    Speaking on Fox News, Pompeo said: “The responsibility in the first instance falls to the United Kingdom to take care of their ships. The US has a responsibility to do its part.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...k-after-its-own-ships-in-the-gulf-says-pompeo
     
  8. neddyfonk

    neddyfonk Established commenter

    Bizarre world where everyone agrees we should be burning less fossil fuels but worries about not being able to because a tanker was stopped. So - what is Plan B ?
     
  9. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    So Hunt has made a couple of phone calls to foreign office equivalents in France and Germany who were polite and didn’t rebuff him. It is all pretty meaningless at the moment, just political posturing by Hunt.
     
  10. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax New commenter

    This could be the issue that sinks Brexit. It could be the wake up call required.
     
  11. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax New commenter

    How many people were at the stop Brexit march on Saturday? why was it not reported at all?
     
  12. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    More renewables, yes, but the US have enacted Plan B, hardly any Gulf Oil is exported to the USA so they don't need to escort ships. Why should only a few European nations provide more escort ships, apart from the UK it will only be France and Italy that have any capacity anyway. The big states reliant on Oil from the Gulf are Japan, India and China.
     
  13. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    So on the one hand you have a government that is seeking co-operation from it's European allies.

    ...and then we have the same gvernment pushing for a no deal brexit and withholding payments from the same European allies.

    There's nothing like joined up thinking is there ?.
     
  14. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    It's not the same government at the moment.
     
  15. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    Unfortunate choice of date. Same day as England v New Zealand.
     
  16. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Not the same government - true - but the same situation will be in place aftter Wednesday.
     
  17. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    No some are talking about a No Deal and withholding payments from the EU. Our allies are individual member states not the 'EU' which is not a state. Some member states are of course neutral.
     

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