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How to get a job on UPS3

Discussion in 'Pay and conditions' started by terryhenry, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. Hi all,
    I've just returned to the UK after a 3 year break from teaching as I accompanied my wife and kids on an overseas posting. I've been applying for jobs, without even getting an interview so far. As I've had a successful career to date, and have never had any trouble getting job interviews, I'm beginning to think it's because I'm on UPS3 and therefore too expensive. Several people have suggested that I should accept a lower pay scale. Is this possible and if so, how do I broach the subject and which level should I accept? If I return to the main teaching scale, do I need to "go through the threshold" again in the future? Is anyone else having similar problems?
    Any advice much appreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. Hi all,
    I've just returned to the UK after a 3 year break from teaching as I accompanied my wife and kids on an overseas posting. I've been applying for jobs, without even getting an interview so far. As I've had a successful career to date, and have never had any trouble getting job interviews, I'm beginning to think it's because I'm on UPS3 and therefore too expensive. Several people have suggested that I should accept a lower pay scale. Is this possible and if so, how do I broach the subject and which level should I accept? If I return to the main teaching scale, do I need to "go through the threshold" again in the future? Is anyone else having similar problems?
    Any advice much appreciated. Thanks.
     
  3. gavcradd

    gavcradd New commenter

    I don't think you can - once you cross threshold, that's it I believe.
    You could always try just putting M6 on your application and not mention it, see what happens?
     
  4. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    No, the Unions will not allow schools to offer you less money. Although independent schools can pay what they like, and may have more money anyway - have you considered applying there?
    Go to the Independent Forum and read my advice clickables inside the Welcome Thread for general info on the indy sector, if you haven't thought of it before.
    You also need to have the right sort of application nowadays. I say nowadays, as you must be aware of the enormous competition that there is, with fewer jobs and many unemployed teachers chasing them.
    Go to the JobSeekers Forum and read the advice in the clickables inside the Welcome thread - they will help you with your application overall. And when Push comes to Shove, you might just think that it would be worth investing in a one-to-one for your future's sake, so you can specilaist, individual advice on your applications. It may seem a bit expensive, but unemployment is even more expensive.
    But try the free advice first!
    Best of luck.



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    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.




    The TES Careers Advice
    service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and
    applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application
    review service.




    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones,
    and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at
    application letters, executive summaries and interviews.




    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.




    Go to https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.




    Look forward to seeing you!




     
  5. Many thanks for the good advice, Theo. Maybe the independent sector is the only way, but I find it very sad and frustrating. I feel I have so much to offer children in the state sector, and yet I seem to have inadvertantly priced myself out of the market. It makes me wish I'd never gone through the threshold in the first place.
    Terry
     
  6. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    You do really have to ensure that your application stands out so that they are so keen to have you that it outweiughs the financial disadvantage of employing you. You must have a lot of added skills from your period abroiad thatr you can emphasise.
    Best wishes
    ____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.
    Go to https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  7. Does this mean that if you put your current salary down when applying for a new teaching job that the school has to pay you the same salary IF they take you on? I am currently on UPS 1 with lower TLR2 - If I have applied for a job adverised as Main pay scale could they offer the job to me on the lower scale?
     
  8. funkygirl

    funkygirl New commenter

    There is no limit to lesson observations. Anything outside the performance management cycle there is no limit as to how many observations can take place and a head teacher can delegate this responsibility to members of the senior leadership team or middle managers.

    Observations that are linked to performance management can only occur on three occasions during one cycle (please not 3 lessons as oppose to 3 hours).
     
  9. funkygirl

    funkygirl New commenter

    sorry wrong forum!!
     

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