# How many points progress each year is expected from your children?

Discussion in 'Primary' started by Rachste, Jun 29, 2008.

1. ### Rachste

Would you say 3 or 4 per year is totally unrealistic or is it just me? Have been told that 3 is satisfactory and 4 is good!!!!! What are you working towards?

2. ### Rachste

Would you say 3 or 4 per year is totally unrealistic or is it just me? Have been told that 3 is satisfactory and 4 is good!!!!! What are you working towards?

We work towards 4 points progress. But majority make 3 I would say

4. ### teacherofmanyNew commenter

Three is average. In my Y6 class this year some of them have made an APS gain of 16 points (and a class average of 10)!?! It's not because I'm an amazing teacher but because their behaviour is no longer preventing them from learning and performing.

5. ### Rosa123

We talk about sub-levels not points and would expect children to move 2 sub-levels within a year eg. from a 3c to a 3a. Are sub-levels and points the same thing?

6. ### Rainbow Flowers

thats 5 years progress in one year????

7. ### Rainbow Flowers

we expect 1 and a half sub levels = 3 points (i think) so from 3c to a 3b/a.

8. ### trinity0097New commenter

We expect one whole level in Yrs 3 & 4 combined in our first schools and another whole level during Yrs 5 & 6.

The reality is somewhat different, with the split of progress generally not being even, but we are working on that!

That allows for less progress in Yrs 3 moving key stage and Yr 5 moving school.

9. ### Gertie Grumbles

One and a half is reASONABLE IF SCHOOL IS giving normal value added

10. ### Rainbow Flowers

Is 1 and a half the same as 3 points then??

11. ### Rainbow Flowers

FAO teacherofmany

So the class average is 10 - from low 3c to a high 4a in ONE year?? Have I got that right?

12. ### gully

We are targeted for performance management on 50% 2 parts plus and must discuss any child who has not made 2 parts. Am I right that is 4 points?

13. ### gully

How on earth do you work out a half level??

14. ### Rachste

So each sublevel is 3 points? What are OFSTED looking for?

15. ### Gentleben

Each sublevel is 2 APS points. As a guide, 3c is 21 points, 3b is 23 and 3a is 25.

Hope that helps,
Gentleben

16. ### akimboNew commenter

The nationally expected progress in KS2 is 1 level for each two years - that is 6 points -so yes, 3 points per year is what is expected (or 1 and a half sub levels)
These are the points score for various levels:
2C 13
2B 15
2A 17
3C 19
3B 21
3A 23
4C 25
4B 27
4A 29
5C 31

17. ### Gentleben

Oh, meant to mention that in my school we are targeted with between 50% and 90% (depending on year group) to make 4 APS / 2 sublevels progress each year. The head looks at averages and we only have additional support offered if the class average is below 2.5 APS progress.

Gentleben

18. ### gully

thanks Gentleben I get that but not sure how anyone would work out a half of a part level (3 points)?

19. ### Gentleben

Akimbo is right by the way, I was slightly out there.

Last post on this thread for a while!

20. ### Rosa123

This is interesting. I am expected to move ALL children two sub-levels (presumably 4 points)eventhough the Special Needs Children,who are slower learners, tend only to move one sub-level. I always feel I have failed those children if don't get them 2 sub-levels progress.