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How many experienced teachers are outweighed by one young clueless deputy head?

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by Malachite19, Nov 22, 2019.

  1. Malachite19

    Malachite19 New commenter

    How is it that one deputy head in their twenties with no particular discernible talent, knowledge or skill, can over rule an entire staff with a combined many centuries of experience and knowledge?

    I don’t understand.

    he has nothing. He isn’t particularly clever, or qualified, and has about 3 years classroom experience, yet we all have to bend to his rule of iron, even when he clearly has no idea what he is talking about.

    what he goes have in shedloads is confidence and self belief.

    Is that really the only qualification needed to run a school?
  2. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

  3. mothorchid

    mothorchid Star commenter

    He has the balance of power. Sad, but there it is.
    agathamorse likes this.
  4. Flowersinspring

    Flowersinspring Lead commenter

    Please don't tell me he wears a blue, fitted suit - quite tight in the leg - and brown, shiny boots? AKA THE go to. suit for youngsters these days!

    No offence intended to anyone. I see such suited and booted fellas who work at a fancy car

    show room every morning on my commute. Just a personal grudge that has neither rhyme nor reason.
  5. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Ummm as you only started teaching this September...it's not surprising that this is news to you.
  6. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    What a ridiculous comment
  7. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    I meant that the rest of us are fully aware of this and that it isn't noteworthy.
    agathamorse likes this.
  8. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    Which is why I meant it was ridiculous.
    "Actually I've already known that for years and so has everybody else, just not you"
    "So what, who cares?"

    Just not sure why you posted it,what it is meant to contribute,

    I like the post and am comfortable with that sort of caricature.
    Curae likes this.
  9. Flanks

    Flanks Senior commenter

    I was more thinking that the OP might not have enough experience to validly judge the assistant head's ability...
  10. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    That is the way things have been going for the last 10 - 15 years. Management numbers increase while teachers decrease. For each new manager's salary, a couple of teachers get 'moved of the bus'.
  11. wrldtrvlr123

    wrldtrvlr123 Occasional commenter

    Considering that the young, clueless deputy head actually has 3 times the classroom experience of the OP, this is a reasonable viewpoint. Especially since the OP included themselves in the "yet we all have to bend to his rule of iron" statement.

    Of course that doesn't mean that the DH isn't clueless with more ******** than brains, and the OP does have my sympathy.
  12. starlightexpress

    starlightexpress Occasional commenter

    A Deputy Head does not run a school. The Headteacher does!
  13. Abitofeverything

    Abitofeverything Occasional commenter

    What I'm interested to know is, did all of these experienced teachers go for the deputy head post? Did he get it over lots of people who had more experience? Or was he the only one to stick hie head over the parapet and go for a SM post? I think it requires a lot of confidence and self-belief to go into management these days - I wouldn't want to do it!
  14. 1cherries

    1cherries New commenter

    I've met loads of 'em - slick. dissembling, Emperor'-new-clothes-types; time serving careerists doing the 'devil's business' and just about keeping the whole rickety charabanc on its tracks. Good luck to em!...PS I could go on
    Curae, agathamorse and towncryer like this.
  15. Jazztess79

    Jazztess79 New commenter

  16. Jazztess79

    Jazztess79 New commenter

    NewbieSLT: tears of laughter!
    drek, towncryer, blazer and 5 others like this.
  17. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    I know!
    I absolutely love this Twitter account,and would never ever print out the Tweet I linked in post #2 and put on the staffroom notice board on paper, and then ensure it was repinned there after being taken down over fifteen times.
    agathamorse and Deirds like this.
  18. Jazztess79

    Jazztess79 New commenter

  19. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Rather rude, but hey ho.
  20. Malachite19

    Malachite19 New commenter

    I’ve taught for decades in different places. This is my first term working as a teacher, teaching in a school.

    It’s madness. It’s insane. This is just not how the real world works. I dont know if it is just the school I've found myself in, or if it is more general.

    it’s quite clear the instructions coming from this deputy head are a nonsense. It’s quite obvious he had no idea what he is doing. His arrogance is mind blowing. He quotes research without understanding it, and uses statistics without being able to see when they are obviously flawed. He understands less than nothing about our subject, but gets to tell us what to do. He ignored us and over rules us when we try to explain why something won’t work, then blames us when it doesn’t.

    I’ve already decided to leave at the end of the year, if not before. Why would anyone live like this?

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