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How do I hurry up the NHS?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by emilyisobel, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. lurk_much

    lurk_much Occasional commenter

    Em have you got one f those home blood pressure monitors? I would be building my own stats and logging all sorts of odd info to try and find patterns.
    But then I am a [​IMG]
     
  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    To be fair your fear and anxiety are probably exacerbating the problem.

    ..and, in defence of GPs, mine have been outstanding over the last year and, when I've needed referred to specialist services, I have been. Quickly and efficiently.
     
  3. It's only happened about 4 times (over the last 3 days) - every time when I have been concentrating on something else and not thinking about it. I hadn't been exerting myself at all and today I was just chatting to someone, I turned in my seat. Before the episode today I'd just put it down as a reaction to the sudden bolt of pain when I'd stretched. It was only the do today that really got me worried - the blue hand has been a lot more worrying up until now.
    I'm sure there are some brilliant GPs - there are some at our surgery to be honest - but they can be difficult to get to see and I seem to end up with young and inexperienced ones.
     
  4. Might be an idea, but it does seem to be a step down the path to hyperchondria. [​IMG]
    To be honest, I would have thought that my BP would be at its highest when I went to the docs - they do make me nervous.
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    Don't knock them...sometimes it's the young and "inexperienced" ones who spot the problem.
    I'm just back from my GP and have seen the latest trainee GP, newly in post. He took much more time and asked many more questions than my regular GP.
    Do keep pressing for your appointment to be brought forward but try not to be overly concerned - it's unlikely that any GP would miss signs of imminent heart problems.
     
  6. Possibly - just that after 8 months of pain and no diagnosis, I'm feeling rather jaded. I'm more ped off with the system than anything else.
    My appointment can't be brought forward now, it is within 2 weeks - it's just that both the doc at A&E and my GP felt that it was too long away - especially as I need further tests and a referal to a different consultant.
    I don't think it's a heart problem - it is more mechanical than that - the blood vessels and nerves to my arm are getting compressed. I'm more worried that it will get completely trapped or burst. It worries me that the GP can't give me any ideas about what I should and shouldn't do. I'm trying to work at the moment so that I'm not dwelling on it, but it is difficult - someone is having to write on the board for me - but I still have tests to mark which I'm trying to do left-handed and can only stay in a writing position for a few minutes at a time. Hopefully occ health will give some ideas when I go tomorrow.
     
  7. moonpenny

    moonpenny Occasional commenter

    First of all I want to say that your heart suddenly racing and becoming aware of the palpitations can be part of a panic attack.
    However, having said that the bit about your hand turning blue does not sound good to me and I think you should go back to A and E.
    Totally unrelated to your symptoms ... so not meant to scare you.but my dad died recently and I think his GP did let him down.
    He had been treated for heart failure for a while but had been discharged in July and told to phone up the nurse at the hospital if he had any worries.
    He hadn't been right for ages and when my mum told me that he had been sat in the chair shivering for days with a weeping wound on his ankle, I was really worried and said he should go to A and E.
    As I live at the about 150 miles away from them, I kept phoning up them up to check on how he was doing as I knew he had a GP appointment on the Friday as that was the soonest they could fit him in.
    He went to see the GP and the GP said he had fluid on his lungs and all over his body and gave him a prescription for water tablets which he couldn't even get as the chemist didn't have them in. So basically, he was just sent home.....
    In retrospect,I wished I had phoned for an ambulance because 3 days later he died very suddenly, having been unwell since the doctor's visit.
    I am sure yours is probably a combination of anxiety and something which isn't a medical emergency but I think you need to make a bit of a fuss so that you are taken seriously. The NHS is under a lot of strain and things aren't getting any better. The cuts are biting with operations being delayed and quite a few things are no longer treated as they aren't considered important.
    The last thing my dad's GP did to let my dad down was to say to my mum that he would leave the death certificate at the surgery so my mum and brother could pick it up and start sorting things out .....and when they got there there was no sign of it - luckily the receptionist found it under a pile of papers even though she had not been told anything about it.
    I have lost a lot of faith in the NHS -it is often the luck of the draw as to whether you get someone who has the time ,knowledge and experience necessary.
    I went with my mum recently to an appointment as she can't walk without constant pain and now needs a walking stick - the consultant was talking into a dictaphone and it was impossible to understand what he was talking about.I ended up asking him lots of questions on her behalf and he looked ****** off that I had the cheek to ask...if I hadn't been there my mum would have left being totally clueless as to what was going to happen....which wasn't very much.
    Sorry this has turned to be a big rant against the inefficiencies of the NHS but what I wanted to really say is that ( a bit like parents who kick up the biggest fuss, get the fastest response) is that don't let them fob you off!
    And if you need to take time off school to sort this out ....do it.
    Go to A and E and refuse to move until they take you seriously....jump up and down if you must
    .Better to be safe than sorry x
     
  8. Sorry to hear about your dad Moonpenny. It sounds like you've had some really bad experiences with doctors.
    A&E are just not interested unless the blood supply stays off - it is an hour for us to get there as well.
    The heart racing incidents have happened when I've been relaxed and been engrossed in other things - definitely not panic attacks - I had one of those once after my youngest was born and was in intensive care. I've only got scared about them after the episode today - I just figured that the other 3 were my body reacting to a sudden jolt of pain when I've stretched the shoulder.
    I don't know if occ health will be too happy to have me in the classroom at the moment - I do need the distraction though - otherwise all I can do is sit and read - I've run out of books at the moment.
     
  9. moonpenny

    moonpenny Occasional commenter

    I hope you find someone to sort you out soon and don't be afraid to make a fuss ,Emily.
    Last year, I had to have a biopsy and thought everything would be ok as I hadn't heard for weeks. In the end it wasn't but luckily I got a consultant I really trusted and who seemed to care what happened to me.
    I was so glad when he was the one who operated on me. On the day of my operation,I sat 5 hours on a plastic chair outside the ward. When it got to 15 minutes before the operating theatre closed for the day, the consultant said he would probably have to cancel my operation. My oh was virtually begging with him not to as he knew how stressed and frightened I was. In the end I made it into the theatre about 10 minutes to 5. The old lady sat next to me who was to go in after me - she was nearly 90 and had also been sat outside in the corridor for hours got sent home...
    AS I was getting the general anesthetic, the anesthetist told me that more and more operations were being cancelled due to staffing cuts.
    I feel sad that my dad a life long labour supporter who worked hard all his life to pay his taxes and never claimed anything off the state was let down when he needed help.
    I think what I am trying to say is don't place too much faith in the system and don't be scared to keep phoning up to make sure someone that listens to you x
     
  10. My approach would be to call the GP everyday until someone got you an appointment. But given the consultant is off I'm not sure how this would help. You can also try going back to A&E and refusing to leave until a doctor has seen you. Oh, and have the local paper on speed dial.
     
  11. joli2

    joli2 New commenter

    Just to say that it's quite common for panic attacks to come on 'out of the blue' like this; you don't have to be actually feeling panicky or stressed.
     
  12. joli2

    joli2 New commenter


    Just to say that it's quite common for
    panic attacks to come on 'out of the blue' like this; you don't have to
    be actually feeling panicky or stressed.
     
  13. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    Is it not possible for you to go private and then send the bill to the NHS? They should pay (or contribute)so long as the costs are reasonable.
    In fact, I thought this was the law now? Or maybe it was just a proposal....or a dream!!
    But so long as the private doctor isn't silly, I think the (correct) idea is this reduces strain on the NHS?

     
  14. It is definitely not a panic attack - no hyperventilation, just me going pale and having a racing heart and dizziness. I also don't think that it is a heart problem - otherwise there would be some sort of sign of high BP or an irregular heartbeat.The problem is if I went to A&E they would be likely to say the same thing and just put me down as a neurotic. It probably doesn't help that I'm very nervous of hospitals and tend to get in a bit of a state by the time I get there. I'm usually pretty level headed and it is irritating that I'm so pathetic when confronted by a doctor.
    Moonpenny - I hope you are better now. Take care.
     
  15. You still need a GP referal. My GP is waiting for the current consultant to give the OK to refer me to someone else. I'll get the right person eventually I guess - vascular surgeon is the next on the list and my gut feeling is that he is who I need to see as my new osteopath has straightened my back out and the pain I'm now getting is much more localised. Unfortunately the blood vessel symptoms are getting worse as I stand straighter and have more relaxed muscles. It is an odd one - I think I was made from defective bits, I ought to demand a refund[​IMG]
     
  16. moonpenny

    moonpenny Occasional commenter

    just another thought that when my thyroid went haywire i was getting a racing heart ,palpatations as well as hives,it could be your symptoms are too different things,
     
  17. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    You don't necessarily have to hyperventilate for it to be a panic attack and there may be no obvious reason for a panic attack to start and they can come on out of the blue. Your symptoms could be a panic attack or they could be related to your condition.
    All of which, combined with your anxiety about your symptoms create the perfect conditions for panic attacks when you least expect them.

    I'm not definitively diagnosing your symptoms as panic attacks, just pointing out that they definitely could be. Anxiety does very strange things to our bodies. ...and for what it's worth your description of heart problems isn't necessarily accurate either, which is why it's important that you do get seen.
    If nothing else, each day that passes brings you another day closer to your appointment - it's highly unlikely that, if it turns out that something serious is going on, that the appointment won't result in things speeding up dramatically.



     
  18. Tigger1962

    Tigger1962 New commenter

    Have you kept a note of when these trapped nerve symptoms occur and how you were holding your shoulder/hand - is it worse with certain types of activity such as writing/typing/gripping/stretching??
    Is your shoulder swollen at all? Is the swelling trapping the nerve? Have you tried an ice-pack or frozen peas?
    Have you tried supporting your arm with a sling to see if it reduces pressure on the shoulder?
     
  19. Sorry Seren - I'm not meaning to be prickly. I'm just tired and fed up.
    Tigger - it's happening in all sorts of positions. I can't write with my right hand. Because of the position I get pain in the shoulder, up my neck and across the top of my chest if I write with my left hand. If I'm standing with my arm by my side the hand goes blue and if I reach forward it goes white and cold. If I hunch my shoulder up it goes pink again. There is no swelling and I've tried ice and heat.
    As it affects my neck I can't use a sling.
     

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