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How do I hurry up the NHS?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by emilyisobel, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. Just a thought - if you see a consultant privately aren't you bound to pay for tests a treatment privately?
     
  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    Nope. Not unless you choose to have them privately. You'll only pay for the consultation then, if you're not going to pursue the tests and treatment privately, you return to the NHS. If the consultant deems you to be urgent you will probably get moved up the list but if s/he deems it to be non-urgent nothing changes. Sometimes it's worth paying for a consultation if only for peace of mind. It's usually faster, I think it's relatively unusual to be waiting longer than you would for NHS consultations.
    Clearly your case hasn't been considered to be urgent by your GP.
     
  3. lilachardy

    lilachardy Star commenter

    In a word, no.
    I didn't last week!
     
  4. Thanks.
    Seren - my GP wrote to the consultant 2 weeks ago asking for my appointment to be moved forward. They haven't heard anything back.
     
  5. lilachardy

    lilachardy Star commenter

    It can take up to 2 weeks for a letter to get where it's going in the NHS.

    Crazy situation, I know, when an email would be instant...
     
  6. It's crackers. In the meantime I'm getting more and more worried!
     
  7. jonkers

    jonkers New commenter

    That depends on the consultant and the circumstances. If you are private through insurance then any tests/investigations/further consultations/surgery will obviously be charged to the insurance company. If you are a self payer who is obviously not wealthy then who knows?
    I paid for a first consultation a few years ago as it was obvious that there was something seriously wrong and whilst I had seen 3 consultants in 3 weeks none of them were in the specialism I needed. Whilst they all agreed that there was a problem none of them were sending me for the right tests as none of them had seen "anything like" it. My GP was great and referred me to a very experienced, generalist old fashioned consultant physician who basically said that he was going to send me for several thousands of pounds worth of tests, did I have insurance? No. Then he would see me the following week in his NHS clinic. He saved my life.
     
  8. I'm having the same problem of not being referred to the right person. Everything is taking so long - 2 months between appointments and tests etc. I don't even have a definite diagnosis after 8 months. It looks like I now need to see a vascular specialist but the appointment hasn't even been made as the GP is waiting to hear back from the rheumatologist. O can afford to pay for a consultation at the prices you've told me but not for an MRI angiogram which is what the consultant radiologist said that I needed a month ago.
     
  9. All I can suggest is to keep pestering them and don't give up.
    Getting in touch with the consultants secretary is quite a good idea - I've had to do it twice, and have had quick responses both times.
    I still don't have a definite diagnosis after almost 10 years (although it did take them 8 of those to actually refer me to a consultant!!) and I couldn't (and still can't) afford to go private (and would see the same person, even if I did!).
    10 days until my next appointment...place your bets on what will be said/done this time!!
    Hope you get something done soon x
     

  10. Or play them at their own game. Go to a different A&E and say you fell over yesterday, the pain is excruciating......as much as you want.If there is a history of aneurysms in your family and you point this out, the doctors should be duty bound to check for this then. (But I am from the US where you pay to jump the line and doctors go overboard with treatment due to fear of being sued....great if you have good insurance or are rich, not so good if you are not).
    A new set of surroundings and doctors might get you treated there and them

     
  11. modelmaker

    modelmaker Occasional commenter

    I don't think this is wise. All it will lead to is another bunch of tests and confusion. If there is no evidence of a fall there's the possibility they might regard her as a time waster.
    My advice would be as previously suggested to contact the consultant and if that doesn't get results, contact your MP with details of the tests and dates they were conducted. It's quite remarkable how quickly MPs can make things happen when they want to.
     
  12. Yes, you do have some good poins there Modelmaker, and I will admit I do not know much about the NHS.It does seem very strange to me how people have to wait and play games, but I guess this is because an open to all system will invariably put immense pressure on resources and reduce options for most.
     
  13. modelmaker

    modelmaker Occasional commenter

    I've watched a variety of people deal with issues with businesses and organisations throughout my life. Some always get results and some never do. The ones I've seen get results have tended to be wise, elderly and patient. I think it's a skill that takes time to learn.
    The thing these people never do is be confrontational. I'll give you a couple of examples from last week.
    A young female colleague had a problem with her car and took it to a garage to have it repaired. They did a repair to the wishbones but after she drove it home it was all over the place. She'd brake and find herself over the other side of the cariageway.
    To give a litle background She's a vulnerable single parent with an abusive ex-husband who my friend has taken under his wing.
    Her rang the garage and spoke to the owner to explain the problem on her behalf, but instead of saying it was outrageous they'd done something to the car that made ita potential death trap, he asked what they thought the problem might be. Obviously, the garage wouldn't know until they looked at the car again but the garage owner was happy to send someone out to collect the car and fix the problem instead of having the grief of inspectors visiing. The girl had her car back the next day working as it should.
    And in my case, the dishwasher my wife bought earlier this year packed up. It would be nice to attribute to manufacturing fault, but I suspect it to be a combination of a comedy of errors which began with a power cut and suceceded into a series of circuit breaker events as my beloved chose to ignore my advice and run the dishwasher, washing machine and tumble dryer from the same socket at the same time.
    I managed to get the dishwasher working again for a day by re-booting it, but alas, after the next wash, it al went up the pictures again.
    But why should I worry, because it's still under warranty.It's going to be simple to contact the company and get them to sort it, isn't it?
    Easier said than done. The other person in this household who uses this computeer has had a blitz on removing oldemails, including the one which gave the confirmation and invoice for the order.
    Left to me to deal with the complaint I scoured the TES website as I remembed recommending the compamy and the eficient service they gave,
    Drawing on my experience of an ex-colIeague, now sadly departed who was able to charm the nuts off the trees. called them and related how kindly they dealt with our order and how eficientlt it had been delivered the next day, and altough it was unlikely the fault would be to be due of the girl on the phone, how could she help?
    And there you go, We have an engineer caling on Tuesday.

     
  14. Mrs_Frog

    Mrs_Frog New commenter

    As previously mentioned, try to contact the consultants secretary, and call politely everyday to see if there are any cancellations or whatever. Polite was the key for me, and I got some tests a lot sooner that originally planned because I was very nice on the phone to the lady who did the booking. I also called her afterwards to say thank you very much. The PCT I was with at the time encouraged you to book your own appointments.
    Probably p i s sed her off no end, but by the end of it she knew who I was and was very pleasant to me. Also meant (in my head) that if I needed the tests again at some point, I would not be known as a troublesome patient. Persistent maybe, but not troublesome!
    Good luck
    B x
     
  15. Cestrian

    Cestrian New commenter

    We had to see a consultant dermatologist privately for Daughter No2 a couple of years ago, just phoned up the private hospital and made the appointment ourselves. He was lovely, took as long as needed to sort out the problem, then promptly made all further appointments at his clinic in the local NHS hospital so we didn't have to pay for any more treatments. What a sensible man!
     
  16. Been to GP who asked me to ask the secretaries to chase it up - then rang consultant's secretary - he isn't in this week so my appointment can't be moved forward. Nobody has taken any steps to refer me to the correct consultant for the problem - the radiologoist recommended this a month ago - my GP won't do anything until I see the consultant, this is despite me getting sudden racing heart rates and dizziness sometimes when I move my shoulder. I scared someone to death in the staffroom today - just sitting talking to them turned slightly and it happened. Because my heartrate and blood pressure were fine when I went to the GP it's OK. However, I'm really scared.
    There isn't another A&E in East Yorkshire.
     
  17. lurk_much

    lurk_much Occasional commenter

    It is hard to believe how **** the NHS is considering how much cash it gets. The principle is great. the delivery dreadful. I would like us all to be able nominate and vote for a particular consultant to be impaled on a big spike, one or two a year may buck their ideas up.
    Don't get me started on GPs.
     
  18. I am rapidly coming to that conclusion. I think they forget that we are just ordinary human beings who actually get scared when we are getting unexplained symptoms.
     
  19. bombaysapphire

    bombaysapphire Star commenter

    So sorry to hear this EI. It sounds really frightening.
    My Dad had issues with a heart problem and would dash to the GP who would then call and ambulance and send him to the hospital. Are you near enough to the GP to get there when you next get the racing heart?
    Presumably it would work it you went to the nearest GP, not necessarily your own, and you would then have a witness to the turns that you are having.
     
  20. We're opposite [​IMG] It doesn't seem to be a dodgy heart - heart and BP are OK.
    It looks like a vein in my shoulder is getting trapped and then suddenly becoming open again - but that is just my assumption as the GP won't give any sort of opinion and says I just have to tell the consultant.
     

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