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How can I stop my Y11 Maths classes just downloading mark schemes

Discussion in 'Secondary' started by jhickin, Mar 10, 2020.

  1. jhickin

    jhickin New commenter

    My Y11 Maths classes, I've got 2 just keep downloading or accessing the exam paper mark schemes, so there is no pioint in giving them past papers to do.

    any ideas?
     
  2. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter


    Tell them - all of them, in writing with a dated message - that they will only be damaging their own prospects if they do so. Copy to SLT.

    Then re-send the message when they get poor exam results. Back covered!


    NB Do all Exam Boards do this? If not, maybe switch to one that doesn't. Or campaign with them to stop doing so.
     
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  3. diddydave

    diddydave Established commenter

    Adapt the past papers by altering the values within the questions.
    1) You will catch those who just download and present the answers.
    2) You will demonstrate how questions from year-to-year are essentially the same
     
  4. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

    You could also change question numbers and mix up questions from different years and even different exam boards to make it harder to cheat.
     
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  5. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

  6. tb9605

    tb9605 Established commenter

    Or don't give past papers as homework. Make them do them in class. Set other work for homework.
     
  7. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    What exam board do you use? Some have an exam question wizard to use past questions to devise your own papers, you can therefore mix them up and only you get the mark scheme that corresponds to the paper you create, they'd be very ambitious to try to track all the questions.
     
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  8. hhhh

    hhhh Lead commenter

    Cut and paste papers. Literally-as in cut out the questions from different papers and stick them before photocopying-if you want to give them m/s later, you can obviously make your own version to give them.
     
  9. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    This is work for you as the teacher but can help things.

    Worth sending the message that copying from mark schemes is detrimental to their exam chances.

    I would add that you should scan students solutions to papers with perfect or near perfact scores (start with those students who are clearly cheating, in your opinion; hence this thread).
    Save these scans named for easy indexing and recall.
    When the blame game starts produce the electronic copies and say how were to know that they would do so badly when they produced perfect/near perfect answers to a paper. They are then face with the choice of admitting their laziness/stupidity or agree that they gave you the impression that there was nothing left to teach them...
    After all, when you are going through past papers you are moping up anything that they missed or misunderstood. This will also be useful when the results autopsy starts and SLT start saying why did little freddy get predicted a high grade and end up with a really low grade.

    When the little darlings won't listen be sure to have a way of hoisting them up by their own petard.
     
  10. thara9643

    thara9643 New commenter

    You could try this approach. This way I found that the amount of cheating drops dramatically. Instead of just giving out exam papers in class for the students to take to their desk to do, I look at them online at home then I adapt the questions. For example when I write out a grade one question on a topic like place value or rounding for my bottom ability set, I tend to modify the wording of the original question. The same thing applies to all of my other groups. When we do a proper practice exam style lesson in April or May in the classroom, I deliberately turn off the Internet and ask that they either write their answers down on paper or use Word. Maybe this would work equally as well? Or try writing down the exam question on the board.
     
  11. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    Making umpteen version of each question is lot of work for the teacher.

    You should be trying to achieve the Pareto Principle and focussing on the 20% of your efforts that gets 80% of the results. It might not be there but it is the way to go.
     
  12. CandysDog

    CandysDog Established commenter

    WJEC has a question bank that you can use to create your own papers: questionbank.wjec.co.uk.

    I realise this probably isn't your exam board, but the style of Maths questions surely can't vary that much between the different specifications. (Can they? I'm not a Maths specialist.)
     
  13. meggyd

    meggyd Lead commenter

    I found that copying the cover sheet of another year and putting at the front of the paper deterred some and also putting the questions in a different order. So they get the right answers to the wrong questions. Also if you have time cut and paste the questions from different years...a sort of jigsaw paper.
     
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  14. SparkMaths

    SparkMaths Occasional commenter

    Students can type any question into wolframalpha.com or use one of the various phone apps that photo and solve questions. You have a losing battle trying to stop it. At least they didn't correctly guess the correct paper for mock exams like I saw happen two years ago (not my class)!

    You have to develop a culture where students understand that they need to study properly to get the best results (and understand why they need the best results) if you want to use questions as homework. Otherwise you'll need to develop homework that wants something other than just a correct answer, perhaps asking for a particular quainity of revision notes in whichever method they choose.

    I know as a GCSE student I was only interesting in playing computer games and rushed all homework, it was doing poorly in my AS Levels which woke me up and got me studying properly to get a good A Level result. I'm not sure what would have gotten through to me at that age, I certaintly didn't have any firm career aspirations to aim for.

    There may also be a specific problem with it being 2020 and students not wanting to bother doing work for exams which are not taking place. Focusing on A Level overlap topics could be helpful, or saying it's part of your assessment process for giving a teacher assessed grade to the exam board.
     
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  15. thara9643

    thara9643 New commenter

    What is that? Please tell me more.
     
  16. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

    That's not quite true. Wolframalpha can solve difficult equations and carry out complicated integration. However when I typed in "if it takes 8 men 5 days to dig a hole how long would it take 12 men?" it gave me a lot of statistics about weights and lengths of 5 day old male babies!
     
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