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Housing association neighbours??

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Tangit, Feb 3, 2012.

  1. We bought our house 18 months ago in a new build estate from Taylor Wimpey.
    When we bought the house, the site plans showed where the 'affordable housing' would be and told us that it was Housing Association but was all shared ownership. Basically, I purchased my property as far away from these properties as possible. Sounds a tad snobby but after being born and brought up on a council estate and working my a$$ off for years to get a good education, job etc ...I want to live in a nice, private estate away from any possible chavs. Sorry, but why should I pay over £250K for a house to have social housing neighbours?
    I have recently found out that more houses/apts have been sold to the HA and these are directly in front of my house (not what the original plans indicated NOR the site plans that are still being issued to potential buyers). I contacted Wimpey who said that, yes, a HA has purchased the 4 properties but that they would probably be shared ownership like the others. When I contacted the HA, they said that the homes they had left were for rent through the local authority social housing list.
    I am upset at this as :
    a) I did categorically purchased my house in the furthest location away from the 'affordable housing'
    b) it is not even shared ownership - it is to be rented out to any Tom, Dick or Harry on the social housing list
    c) this will devalue my property

    What can I do? Who do I need to speak to?

     
  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    With the rise of house prices, I think you might find some professionals are in Housing Association houses. I have considered buying one of these so you might end up living next to a teacher. Or a nurse. Oh, the shame, the effect on house prices.
    I think this will be an interesting thread - or are you trolling?
     
  3. Bethannie

    Bethannie New commenter

    I live in Social Housing.
    I consider myself to be a rather good neighbour - if a little quiet/ unsocial.
    I am fairly certain I am not a chav. Nor are most of the people on this estate.
    The houses on this estate are a mixture of Housing Association and Privately Owned. Both are highly sought after as we are a quiet estate which is reasonably well maintained, close to local shops, on a good bus route and near enough to the local schools for pupils to walk - but not so close as to be over noisy.
    Social Housing is given to a wide variety of people, for a wide variety of reasons. Maybe you should look into this and see if it alters your somewhat prejudiced ideas.
     
  4. My mother is from a council estate, as are you, she is not a chav and (according to you) you are not a chav. Why do you immediately assume people in social housing will "lower the tone"?
     
  5. Because there are exceptions but many are Council Housed And Violent. where do you think Jeremy Kyle finds them, posh suburbs? It was slightly different years ago when only 'those and such as those' could afford their own houses, most working class people lived in council houses. These days council housing is mainly for the non-working class - the more sprogs and benefits you have, the more points you get and the quicker you get to the top of the list.
     
  6. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    Other Daily Mail readers? I'm sure that they'll understand how you feel.
     
  7. doomzebra

    doomzebra Occasional commenter

    I wouldn't worry about it. Once the housing association tenants find out what a complete a$$wipe they have living across the road from their homes, they will soon move out.
     
  8. Gosh, yes, let's keep all the undesirables in one little area and not let them out to contaminate the rest of the population!
     
  9. To be honest you never know who you are getting for neighbours. If they are tenants I am surmising it would be easier to bring pressure to bear if they are a nuisance than on owner occupiers.
     
  10. wordsworth

    wordsworth Senior commenter

    i think that missys is right. my sister lives in a large semi in a 'good' area and she has an extremely unpleasant neighbour - it is all luck of the draw.
     
  11. Andy_91

    Andy_91 New commenter

    The OP is right - some people are just anti-social scum with impoverished minds.
    It's a brilliant self-diagnosis.
     
  12. As others have said, social housing is given for a variety of reasons and to a variety of people. One of my work colleagues is on the waiting list for social housing-she works over 40 hours a week as a carer in a residential special school and needs to move into a key worker style housing scheme so that her 14 year old son can come and visit her as currently she lives in the same staff hostel I do where children are not allowed to visit. You could end up living next door to her or someone like her. There are a lot of decent people out there who work very hard but simply cannot afford any other type of housing.
     
  13. alphabite

    alphabite New commenter

    I lived in an street that was primarily HA with the odd house privately owned like mine. It was a lovely street, mainly elderly folks who looked out for everyone and helped you in the garden if you needed advice or spare space in the wheely bin for garden rubbish! I became their adopted granddaughter and was regularly invited in for coffee and sherry!
    There were also some younger folk too, including some students, some young professionals in their first homes (like me) and some people you would probably class as chavs. All were fantastic and everyone looked out for everyone. Never a cross word, never any crime, never any problems. I loved it there for 4 years but had to relocate for work. I went back recently and it's still the same. The hairdresser across the road is still doing all the elderly folks hair for free...so nice of her.
    Don't judge.
     
  14. Its easy to say dont judge, but I live on a new build estate with social housing interspersed. You dont need a map to show you where the social housing is.
    when me and my children walk round the estate, you can see the streets that are social housing because they have settees, broken cars, washing machines and rubbish on the paths and gardens.
    Now I am not a social housing snob, because my ENTIRE family grew up in council houses, and I really appreciate the secure base that gave us as children. But I have NO idea why social housing now = large pieces of rubbish outside. I can post photos if you like.
    Where I live now is the first place I have lived that is not social housing, and so I am incredibly sad that the occupants do not represent my parents and aunties and uncles and nanas who lived in dignity in social housing.
    There is one area that was fields 3 years ago, that is new build housing now. 40% is social housing, and as a result the prices on this estate are WELL below prices in any other part of my town. Average 3 bed new build £190k, average 3 bed on social housing estate £140k. Market forces. I dont make the rules.
     
  15. bacardibreezer

    bacardibreezer New commenter

    I have mixed feelings about this. I grew up in a working class area - terraced houses with small back yards - and don't like to think that I have turned into a snob. But I have to be honest - I have quite a lot of sympathy with the OP and with Chloekitten's post. Something similar has happened to us in the last three years and more HA homes are being built nearby. We witness the rubbish and old cars abandoned outside houses which are next to homes for which the ownsers paid through the nose to get mortgages.
    All the houses on our road have dropped in value; even taking the recession into account, they have dropped disproportionately when compared to similar homes in what was once a pleasant village.
    I don't think it's HA housing per se but just the luck of the draw. We happen to have a lot of people who don't care about their surroundings moving into the ones near us, although the majority of those moving into the houses are great. As another poster said, some are elderly and some are young professionals. Some are simply unable to afford the extortionate prices asked for houses today. But, unfortunately, some are the sort no one would want as neighbours and who I would imagine populates the sofas of the Jeremy Kyle Show (never watched it, but from what I've heard ...)
    Conversely, the village next to ours has a much larger HA ratio and has no problems at all - in fact, the unsavoury ones are those who bought their houses.
    No one likes inconsiderate neighbours, whether they're in HA or private homes. It really is the luck of the draw.
     
  16. tartetatin

    tartetatin New commenter

    I feel awful for saying this, as I'm clearly in the minority, but I can understand the OP's concerns. I recently visited a friend at her privately owned flat on a new build development. The non privately owned flats were obvious as there was a sea of cigarette butts on the ground outside.
    She had a horrendous neighbour with a huge fierce dog that terrified her young son. When he had a punch up with girlfriend, guess who wasn't in a position to stump up the cost of cleaning the communal blood spattered walls (I believe you need a specialist cleaning team when dealing with blood) ...
    Two sides to every story.
    However, I do agree that there are plenty of brilliant and deserving HA neighbours as well as good and bad neighbours whatever the circumstances.
     
  17. Is there an assets/income test for public housing in England?
    I thought housing assistance was for people who are unable to earn an income, for example people on disability pensions or similar?
     

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