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Hospital told RAF sergeant to leave waiting room in case his uniform upset other patients

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Morninglover, Sep 26, 2015.

  1. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

  2. Cervinia

    Cervinia Occasional commenter

    That's the way it is now I'm afraid.

    One can simply declare that they are offended by someone's opinion, dress or occupation... And that's it, they have the right to censor views of infringe on other people's right to public life.

    If you support such things, become a TES mod.
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  3. mandala1

    mandala1 Occasional commenter

    Its the Daily Mail. Their grip on reality is tenuous, to say the least.
  4. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    Sadly, this story appears to be true, it was on Radio 4 this morning and the hospital have apologised. There are so many made-up stories like this around but I have to admit this one is real.
  5. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    It was on the BBC news this morning. I find it hard to understand why in this situation,people waiting to be seen in an hospital,the sight of someone in a uniform would offend.
  6. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    Reported on both R4 & R5 this morning. They interviewed the serviceman's father. They had a reply from the hospital. Seems pretty much true....
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  7. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

  8. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    Was anyone offended? Probably not. Sounds like one of those story when someone decides that Christmas is going to offend some people when those people are actually quite happy to join in.
  9. Rhoswen77

    Rhoswen77 Established commenter

    It seems to have been an action by a member of staff acting on her initiative for the sake of the greater good. Madness.
  10. pair_of_argyles

    pair_of_argyles Occasional commenter

    Many years ago I used to do some volunteer work in the local A&E. They always used to put anyone in uniform , police, fire etc, straight into one of the cubicles so that they could avoid the attentions of the local denizens - there was always someone who would have a "pop". - it saved everyone hassle. The service personnel never seemed bothered by this.

    I would imagine if anyone cared to dig a little deeper, they would probably find that this was the case here
  11. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    But that's not what the person concerned father says....
  12. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    It seems to be the father who made the complaint not the serviceman concerned who is presumably an adult and could have complained himself. Hmm! I think it could have been like catmother and pair_of_argyles (good name) have said, it was a foolish thing to do or at least badly explained.
  13. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    Presumably - as a serviceman - he would not be allowed to make a public statement without permission of his superiors...His father has no such restrictions.
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  14. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    An old fella came to collect his wife from the hairdresser. He sat by me on the sofa. He stank!!!

    Now that WAS offensive.
  15. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    The serviceman did make a statement of sorts, he said he didn't want to make a fuss. I'm not supporting what the hospital did IF they did it to avoid upsetting "people from a variety of cultures" whatever that means - yes we know! There are plenty of stories like this which turn out to be untrue, the father could have taken offence unnecessarily fuelled by these.

    For example, there was a Facebook story that a branch of Tesco refused to serve service personnel in uniform to avoid upsetting Muslims. Not only was it untrue, this particular branch of Tesco does not exist. There was another story on Facebook that the British Legion do not sell poppies in 'certain areas', the British Legion have denied this. This kind of propaganda whips up a kind of defensiveness, like another angle on Ali G's "Is it because I is black".

    In case you're wondering where I stand on this my son in law was in the RAF and served in Iraq, I don't think he was ever been accused of upsetting people by his very presence.
  16. WaylonWu

    WaylonWu Established commenter

    I am offended by why they were offended.
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  17. WaylonWu

    WaylonWu Established commenter

    If I am offended by someone who finds the sight of a service person offensive, what recourse do I have to censor in turn the person who feels offended? Or does it depend on where the offended feeling person comes from?

    I mean, is there a scale of offended feelings which matter more than offended feelings of others? And if someone else feels offended by my feeling offended at the other person feeling offended, what recourse do they have to censor my offended feelings? And the same to the next person and on and on and on...?
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  18. WaylonWu

    WaylonWu Established commenter

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  19. WaylonWu

    WaylonWu Established commenter

    The same applies to the many more numerous examples of "people from a variety of cultures" claiming they are offended by certain things when the truth is, after being asked, they never said any such thing and do not feel offended by the claims being made in their name. Instead, they feel resentful and angry at being used for propaganda purposes by a certain section of British society.
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  20. hermitcrabbe

    hermitcrabbe Established commenter

    Oh dear, there are always some people willing to defend the indefensible, willing to try and excuse the behaviour, willing to bend backwards rather than stand up and just say something is wrong.

    Men and women who defend this country and protect its citizens deserve better than to be put behind a wall so they cannot be seen.

    If other cultures cannot respect those who defend them ( because as long as they are here, they too are defended and protected by men in armed service uniforms) then they really should go somewhere else. They should remember ( or learn) that it was men in uniforms like this who saved this country and gave them the freedom to come here and be safe.

    All this "multiculturalism", " offending others" "political correctness" really makes me sick.

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