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Horror as NEU in deep crisis as Labour slams belligerent leadership for putting children at risk

Discussion in 'Education news' started by Luvsskiing, May 14, 2020.

  1. Catgirl1964

    Catgirl1964 Occasional commenter

    Interestingly one of the schools in Denmark, a primary with about 800 students, reopened after having increased their staff numbers from 70 to 110, taking on TAs to take the larger number of classes. Not likely to happen here, is it?
     
  2. Lalex123

    Lalex123 Established commenter

    All the things other schools around the world have done to try and decrease the likelihood of infection are almost impossible over here due to existing budgets, 12 years of successive cuts and a government who have no clue how to handle this situation. Now they are blaming teachers who are only making reasonable steps to prevent further deaths.

    Here is what the government should have done:
    • Enforce mandatory quarantine for all people entering the U.K. from the start of this virus (November was it). 15,000 people per day are still arriving to the U.K. on planes and they are free to leave! No checks, nothing!
    • Work with the EU to source PPE and ventilators for our NHS.
    • Provide PPE to care homes from the very beginning.
    • Discuss (and actually attend meetings) with scientists and virologists to work out how to reduce the R number.
    • Enforce a stricter lockdown. No one is allowed out of the house unless shopping or they are a key worker. Reduce the workload of key workers by limiting services. People out of the house are fined and sent back unless they are doing above tasks. No outdoor exercise.
    • Ask the media to be on board and publish articles that promote health, well-being and the benefits of lockdown during lockdown. Publish successes when they occur.
    • Ramp up testing for everyone. Have temperature tests in shops, have enough antibody tests and roll them out, starting with the worst affected areas.
    • Masks should be mandatory when leaving the house.
    • Public transport cut for everyone except key workers or unless you are going to a shop for food.
    • Only relax lockdown when the number of deaths falls below what it was when we went into lockdown.
    At the moment, the buck stops with the teaching unions but this is because the government has failed us. If the government were competent, teachers wouldn’t have to object to the opening of schools. We wouldn’t be in this situation because we wouldn’t have one of the highest death rates.
     
  3. greygaunt

    greygaunt New commenter

    It sounds as if your sense of balance and judgement is every bit as clouded as those you so obviously despise. Indeed, one step away from the bigotted, patronising populist-nationalist rant published by the Mail recently.
    The keyword here is of course 'safely' and all employers have a duty of care to ensure that their employees are working in as safe an environment as possible. As far as I am aware this is a legal requirement and the coronavirus pandemic does not put it into abeyance. Teachers are (largely) neither obstructive nor workshy. The NEU (for whose leadership you appear to have a particularly virulent personal dislike) is simply asking for more evidence that a June 1 return is as safe as possible.

    It would be great if this could be discussed in a manner free from the political polarisation that seems to be affecting so much else within society.
     
  4. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

    So how big is this risk until a vaccine is found? What's the worst outcome and how likely is it? What controls are being put in place and how does that change the risk?
     
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  5. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    "the huge criticism of the NEU in my Echo chamber is astonishing"

    FTFY
     
  6. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    Rather than a link showing the the NEU are "backing down big time" it appears to be a link to a report showing the the BMA agree with the NEI.

    Thanks again for the link.
     
  7. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    You seem to need a few lessons in comprehension, there is no evidence in a change in position from the NASUWY in that article.
     
  8. colacao17

    colacao17 Senior commenter

    Luvsskiing speaks with the complacency of a daily mail journalist who knows s/he won't be going back to school.

    Why not reopen schools as spaces, but staff them with volunteers from among those people who, like Luvsskiing, believe the risk of contagian from children to be minimal and who clearly have the interests of children at heart? /s

    All we need is to speed up the clearance process to ensure that the wrong kind of volunteers don't slip through the net.
     
  9. Ivanhoe

    Ivanhoe New commenter

    I have edited Luvssking's last post - getting rid of the whining waffle - so that it makes better sense.
     
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  10. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    Rather than believe the Daily Mail you should go and have a read what the ASCL and NAHT actually said.

    For some reason what the Daily Mail said seems to be a distortion of what they actually said, must be a typo or something.
     
  11. thin_ice

    thin_ice Occasional commenter

    Very pleased to see the latest @Luvsskiing thread has been pulled.

    Threads started for no other reason than to start an argument that the OP can pitch into with increasing bile, not debate, must not be tolerated.

    Feel free to have a go at me now. I won’t be offended because I will not be opening this thread again. Happy to let someone else have the last word.
     
    harsh-but-fair likes this.
  12. Luvsskiing

    Luvsskiing Established commenter

    Everyone is having a pop at the highly discredited few dozen Momentum-led NEU leadership now. Today, it's Tony Blair's turn on Newsnight, praising the Government's approach and damning the silliness of the NEU.

    So, an ex Labour PM, the most successful in Labour's history, siding with the Tories bigtime and kicking the teeth of a teaching union in. And I thought pigs couldn't fly!
     
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  13. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

    Not sure why this seems to bother you so much.
     
  14. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    That's rather subjective!
     
  15. Luvsskiing

    Luvsskiing Established commenter

    I would rather have a Labour Government in power, led by someone like TB, than a Tory government led by someone like BJ. Yet there are some on here, determined to keep Labour a party of opposition for the next few decades.

    Strange.
     
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  16. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    Anything that Physicsfanboy doesn’t agree with.
     
  17. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    Because the amount of children contracting and spreading the virus is tiny.
     
  18. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Lead commenter

    He doesn’t like The Tardian or NEU leadership, so what?
    Threads on Nigel Farage or Donald Trump can always reliably bring on a TESgasm
     
  19. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    You sure about that?

    I keep reading both that, the opposite and somewhat between the two
     
  20. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

    Due to the lack of testing of children we do not know this for certain.
     
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