We tend to mostly discuss food on here, but what about drinks? In the early days of my first marriage, it became clear to me I wouldn't be able to afford to drink beer very often unless I brewed it myself. Initially, it was dire, but we drank it anyway and as time went on, it improved a good deal, mostly after I stopped buying the beer kits and playing around with the raw ingredients. It wasn't just beer, I experimented with all manner of country wines. I won't pretend I ever became particularly good at it, but it was becoming quite passable. And then, all of a sudden it ceased, mostly due to an upturn in my income and the lack of time I had available to do it any longer. By that was 25 years ago. And now, in semi-retirement with a lot more time on my hands, and finding myself horrified at the cost of the alcohol component of our Tesco deliveries, I feel it might be both prudent and interesting to revisit making my own brews. My sweetheart recently bought another juice extractor. I can't tell you for the life of me, whatever became of the previous 2 we owned, yet they are pretty efficient things. Only need to stay turned on for a few seconds to whizz any fruit or veg you have down into a juice with minimal pulp. Whizz down a few apples, for example, and you have a glass of apple juice that tastes exactly the same as eating an appple, whereas no other apple juice comes anywhere near. And I'm wondering if I ought to take advantage of the fact this machine is occupying workspace at the same time the apple harvest is due. I feel inclined to make cider and apple wine. To be frank, it will be a blessing to find a use for the mass of wine bottles cluttering up our garage since the bottle recycling facility was removed from our village. Who makes cider? Would you consider using a juice extractor? Would you add the pulp to the brew as well?