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Discussion in 'Thinking of teaching' started by Belle35, Sep 6, 2020.

  1. Belle35

    Belle35 New commenter

    Looking for advice. I work in an independent special school for autistic boys with pupils in years 8-13 as a maths teacher for some pupils and maths interventions for others. I work with the lowest attaining children. I have worked there for 2 years. Teaching KS1-3 maths, especially for low attaining/ SEN children is what I want to be doing with my life.
    I am 51.
    I have O level maths and additional maths (taken in 1985, was it some sort of AS precursor?) and A level English. No degree. I am currently studying for a Childhood and Youth Studies degree with the OU, I am studying at full time study pace and am just starting my second year.

    I have worked previously in primary for 9 years as an HLTA and for 4 of those years taught maths and English to KS2 children in a nurture group.

    What suggestions do you have as to achieving QTS? There is a PGCE Primary with maths specialism course. There is the TES straight to teaching route.

    I can't train as a secondary maths teacher as I don't have a maths degree. It is the KS1/2 content that appeals to me most and this is what low attaining KS3 children would be working on anyway.

    Thank you in advance.
  2. agathamorse

    agathamorse Senior commenter

    Hi again. If you want to work in special needs then in my experience, having worked in two special needs schools, the primary qualification will suffice. The PGCE with maths sounds good as many schools want a PGCE and not just QTS. I'm sure Mr Media or others with more experience will be along to answer soon.
  3. Belle35

    Belle35 New commenter

    Thank you agatha. The main downside of the PGCE is not having an income for a year. Something my spouse might have a thought or two about.
  4. may-bee

    may-bee New commenter

    I’m just starting a primary maths course this year - from the overview we’ve been given so far, and your interest in KS1/2 maths specifically, it does sound like this would suit you! The course I’m doing touches on maths in EYFS and beyond KS2 as well, so you get a bit of extra context, plus you cover all the other primary curriculum areas as per a general primary course. There’s an additional bursary for primary maths at the moment, but the criteria for receiving this is A level maths at grade B - and as I understand it bursary levels can change from year to year anyway. I wonder if it would be worth getting in touch with some local providers to see what they suggest, as you have a lot of relevant experience. In terms of funding, I’m career changing and have combined a maintenance loan from SFE and the bursary to make a manageable level of income short-term (it helps that you don’t get taxed on either).
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  5. rolls

    rolls Occasional commenter

    Once you have completed the second year of your degree there are also some providers who offer a two year primary QTS top up.
    The one we offer at Bradford College involves attending college one day a week and studying online one evening a week for the autumn and summer term and spending the spring term on teaching practice. One teaching practice could take place in a special school and the other in a primary school. Unfortunately this type of course us not available across the whole country and is often not as work place based.
    If you complete your full degree with the OU there may also be teaching apprenticeships available in your area by this point, worth asking your employer to investigate as they could get your fees paid through this route.
  6. MrMedia

    MrMedia Star commenter

    Well we are opening the courses today and once again we will be taking those without maths degrees onto the maths PGCEs. Nationally, around 60% of those who train to be maths teachers don’t have a maths degree. They all do a subject knowledge enhancement course first. But from your history, primary with maths is the right course for you. You seem to like that age group and being an all rounder. But it is an important aside - never shut your own doors of opportunity.
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