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Highs and lows of being 0.8

Discussion in 'Part-time and job share' started by roadwalker8, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. roadwalker8

    roadwalker8 Occasional commenter

    I have just finished my first week of being 4 days (secondary) after many years FT. That day off was glorious! Why I never requested it sooner I do not know.
    Can I expect this feeling to continue or is the long term reality different? Great to hear others experiences.
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  2. Steph2002

    Steph2002 New commenter

    Hi, I am thinking of doing this. But I will drop nearly 8000 a year income.. someone also said you get less frees???
    Is it really worth it
    Plus how much notice did you give.
  3. roadwalker8

    roadwalker8 Occasional commenter

    Hi Steph2002,
    Thanks for the reply. I too lose around that figure in pay. However, I assume with lower tax and pension contributions, the hit will be a little less. Yes, you get fewer frees, but only in proportion to what you work.
    I asked in February, so SMT had plently of time to organise timetable.
    For me personally, I feel it is worth it to give me some balance back to my life. It was great to not feel totally whacked by Friday afternoon. I will see if things change.
    I am also not totally sure how it will affect pension - I am only in late 40s, but plan to leave at 55.
  4. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    The hit on take-home pay is rather less than the hit on gross pay, because the personal allowance covers a greater proportion of your salary.
    You have to request, not give notice. If in secondary, it's much easier to grant requests made in good time for a change in September, as the timetable can take into account your days. A change mid-year is likely to mean having to get someone to cover the other day, and split groups.
    Pension: you'll accrue about 80% of the pension. I've lost track of the changes to the pension scheme, but certainly it used to be that you would accumulate only 0.8 of a year each year in contribution years, but the pension is worked out off the full-time equivalent of your salary (so you don't get penalised twice).
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  5. Steph2002

    Steph2002 New commenter

    Thanks for these replies. This week after talking to teachers union having second thoughts !
    They tell me that you CAN GO UP AND DOWN fte depending on the school needs! We are already overstaffed in my Dept..worried I.d get 0.5 when someone returns from maternity !! I am older tescher, and we are first out!!
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  6. Steph2002

    Steph2002 New commenter

    Someone emailed me and said..if you get 0.8 that is permanent. It can,t be reduced..but days you work will change. Is that right??
  7. strawbs

    strawbs Established commenter

    days can change unless they are specifically stated in contract
  8. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    Highs and lows of being 0.8
    To answer the question...... though my idea of being part-time is not getting enough supply work:(

    Mrs Cazorla has been PT (usually 0.6) for around 10 years now and she still can't manage a decent work-life balance. She seems to just up the quality of marking and planning so presumably it now takes twice as long as the lesson lasts to plan it:(
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  9. everton11

    everton11 New commenter

    As someone who has now been 0.8 since September '17 I love the fact that come Wednesday night the thought that there is only one more school day gives me a buzz to get me through the end of my school week on a high.

    On the negative side the hit to my salary especially with a young child makes me think this is not very sustainable long term.
  10. Lucilla90

    Lucilla90 Occasional commenter

    I’m on supply at present, I love the teaching without major responsibilities. However, the income is not condusive to anything other than covering the bills.

    I am thinking of applying for a 0.8 job locally. I asked about the spread of the hours,but haven’t been told yet.

    It would only really work for me if it was a whole day attached to the weekend. If it was two mornings or afternoons off, I know I wouldn’t benefit. Concerned, though, that if I ask again they will think I am more concerned about time off than the actual job.

    Does anyone actually do 0.8 without a full day off?
  11. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    They'd rather you asked than waste time interviewing you if it will be across 5 days.

    I've done contracts from about 0.28 to 0.72 without a full day off, which happened to suit me. They were in three different schools, but each was within 10 minutes by bike from home, so there was hardly any travel time. The school did double-check on the 0.28 that I really didn't mind, but it happened to fit well for me. The 0.72 was my first part-time post, and began with a day off, but then we needed to make a timetable change, and I realised that actually I would rather go in on the fifth day than teach all five periods on a different day. One of the posts was mid-year and unavoidably six lessons across three days - I think they contacted applicants before short-listing to make sure that they realised this, and some withdrew.
  12. ViolaClef

    ViolaClef Lead commenter

    Part-time work does give you some flexibility- but as @JohnJCazorla says, that can mean the flexibility to work from home. Depending upon how part-time you are it can turn out to be full-time work for a part-time salary. A school definitely benefits significantly from a conscientious part-timer.
  13. BarryIsland

    BarryIsland New commenter

    I have been part-time for years . In the schools I've worked in I've discovered that not being too specific about my wants/ demands means I get a full day off just when it works for the timetable.
    Those who bowl in wanting a full day off AND attached to weekends tend to be frowned upon.
    Timetabling is very difficult you have to be flexible and seem like you understand that.
    Also , I find a mid week day off is refreshing.
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  14. Steph2002

    Steph2002 New commenter

    I really think 0.8 might be harder than full time. Cause you will have only two frees, and so two full days of teaching per week. You hardly have less marking than a full timer, but a big hit on pay! Also quite intense. 0.7 might even be preferable?!
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  15. Marisha

    Marisha Occasional commenter

    I'm giving up completely after a year of .8 - I'm in a promoted post, and find that I'm expected to manage the duties I formerly completed in five days in the space of four. Just not possible.
  16. Kateray1

    Kateray1 Occasional commenter

    I worked 0.8 over 5 days temporarily, but not for long I was replaced with a full time teacher.
  17. Brianthedog

    Brianthedog Occasional commenter

    I've just gone from full time to 4 days. Don't work Mondays. It's fab! I'm a nonnteaching Senco so that's made it easier. A couple of Mondays ago, I emailed my Head for some info, and she told me off because is was my day off!
    I've said I'd be flexible if I'm absolutely needed for a specific Monday. I've made personal medical appointments for my day off so that helps school, ill do training days and change my day off if needed. All in all, I highly recommend it.
    Ps, my take home pay has reduced by about 15%, not 20% as I don't pay as much tax or NI, and my pension contribution has dropped down a % bracket too.
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  18. snowflakesfalling

    snowflakesfalling Occasional commenter

    I enjoyed working 0.8. I got a short afternoon of PPA on my first day of the week so it was really like only working 3 and a half days. It was a bit annoying to be off on a Monday and not get the benefit of Bank holidays though. I generally spent Monday daytimes doing stuff for work and that meant all my weekends were free - which was great.
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  19. adrixargentina

    adrixargentina Occasional commenter

    On Fridays I tidy the house for the weekend so my family and I can do less of that and more relaxing stuff. I also get my hair done every six weeks. I used to work 2 days, then 3 and now the 4. I loved 3 but the school needed me to work for year 11 and they sweetened the deal with a promotion. I still felt pressured to do 4 days but now I am, I like the money. The type of school I'm in though, I really don't think I could do 5 days here.

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