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He's passed the buck...

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Marshall, May 24, 2020.

  1. Marshall

    Marshall Star commenter

    ...he answered the question about Cummings but then went straight onto schools - a very emotive problem.
     
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  2. mothorchid

    mothorchid Star commenter

    He may be an idiot, but he's not as stupid as he appears.
     
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  3. JanE60

    JanE60 New commenter

    He NEEDS his puppet-master. Johnson is merely the muppet. As someone said, would you expect Emu to fire Rod Hull, Sooty to fire Harry Corbett...
     
  4. ajrowing

    ajrowing Lead commenter

    Was that because it is teachers fault?
     
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  5. fox40

    fox40 New commenter

    He needs something to deflect his incompetence. He is hoping the teaching unions will do it for him.
     
  6. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Leave me out of it! :D
     
  7. hhhh

    hhhh Lead commenter

    Relevant. Many people are criticising Cummings. Yet surely what he (perhaps) did is far less dangerous than sending your child back to school?
    You might say that's not the point, if he broke the law-and it's worse for him to have done so than Joe Bloggs to have done so. You might say (like me) that you aren't his biggest fan.
    But it does't stop it being true (arguably) that anyone who sends their child to school is doing something far more dangerous-or does it?
     
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  8. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    As if Cummings isn't whispering in Johnson's ear that children should be back at school.
     
  9. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

  10. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Cummings has been accused of acting irresponsibly, not with breaking the law. The statement from Durham Police specifically says that after a police officer had phoned Mr Cummings Senior, "Durham Constabulary deemed that no further action was required".

    Of course, if it turned out that he later visited Barnard Castle on a day trip, that would be a different matter, but so far it is merely an accusation that has been denied.
     
  11. ajrowing

    ajrowing Lead commenter

    Are you one of the three Tory backbench MPs that are (reportedly) supporting the PM's line? Or have we found a fourth?
     
  12. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    No, I am a person who takes the trouble to try to research things properly instead of just blurting out the first thing that comes into my head. :p
     
  13. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    The reality is Cumming's isthe hate figure of some folks and because he seems to be a maverick is disliked by many.
    Attacking him won't wash and all this forums vocality is no more than hot air, unless you direct your response to those who might be able to change it.
    The police won't as they want the government money, the people won't as they cant make such decisions. Politicians might if they are in Boris' party, but they would be daft to rock the boat of their success. Then again Tories do that for some reason. The opposition hate Cumming's with a vengeance as he basically outsmarted them and have a belief that if they destroy him Boris falls.
     
  14. ACOYEAR8

    ACOYEAR8 Star commenter

    The Buck paused briefly then moved on elsewhere....
     
  15. ajrowing

    ajrowing Lead commenter

    You research it and then blurt out the first thing that came into your head?
     
  16. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Why do you all attack an alternative view because someone does not agree with yours, or indeed sides with you, Its the pack mentally at work not of individuals who explore whether it try and are prepared to alter views,
     
  17. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    There really is some ridiculous input to this thread. This is far bigger than a left and right issue or some kind of personal attack on Cummings just because people don't like him. It's much bigger than personalities and opposing points of view however much some posters keep up that perpetual whine.

    It's about government competence , credibility and trust.
     
  18. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Its also about the failure of some people to care about others to put their self-beliefs before another despite many who obeyed the rules.
    Cummings is just an easy target to accuse because he is important and because he offends other beliefs and viewpoints. Yet in reality, nothing would have been said if he had been a normal member of the public doing such things!
     
  19. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Yes Cummings put himself first, failed to think about what others may have thought and felt and has just openly said so.

    If he'd not been the person responsible for government messages of course we wouldn't have heard about it. That surely must be obvious to you.
     
  20. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    So failure by one means the rest must attack you because of your sort of Famous.I'm not arguing whether it was right for him the travel but whether the media treatment is right. There is no doubt he is important for ideas to Boris and this attracts the attacks with his behaviour an excuse to launch vicious comments from MP"S who might owe their job to his strategy, to opposition leaders who sniff a chance to derail the Government plans, from civil servants who see him as upsetting their apple cart to Bishops frothing with piety at his lack of care in what he did. To the media who sense a 'good' bad story and slash it across the headlines and news and then let it dominate on their sites instead of showing good journalism or moving into more important information as how to protect ourselves when the country opens up, or what old folk should do when left to stagnate at homes, in hiding. To the person reading this media and who believe all the gubenge and comments from the Media and obviously form opinions on the comments and events
    Anyone else it would be a flash in the pan. Maybe he should have been fined as some claim, maybe he should have had his knuckles sorely rapped, but it still stands. The big 'bad 'man seemingly needs to be brought down, attacked and shamed and hopefully, with the state of most TV programmes to look for sensational things like forcing him to retire, and then another long diatribe on what will Boris do.
     

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