Post 186 "You can't say teachers are responsible for their resulst and then tell them the way they must teach. If they are forced into it ............... then it is not their responsibility if the pupils fail. It is yours." I think that most posters here, even those who don't agree with many of your comments, will agree with this. I have seen change 'forced' upon staff and no, it does not work. I have also seen good leaders encourage and support continued professionl development for the benefit of both the teacher and the learners. Just one question from me to help me to put all of your comments into context. What is the ability level at your school in terms of 5 A* to C, and the Maths department A* to C?