# Help! numbers round the wrong way!

Discussion in 'Primary' started by JumpingStarfish, Sep 16, 2011.

1. ### JumpingStarfish

OK, this is a problem I have never come across before - practically every one of my Year 3s write their numbers the wrong way round! Every number, all the time. Its bizarre. Even my more able ones do it! Does anyone have any tips on the best way of sorting this? Its going to be tough because its so natural to them now to do it the wrong way!

2. ### JumpingStarfish

OK, this is a problem I have never come across before - practically every one of my Year 3s write their numbers the wrong way round! Every number, all the time. Its bizarre. Even my more able ones do it! Does anyone have any tips on the best way of sorting this? Its going to be tough because its so natural to them now to do it the wrong way!

3. ### Lara mfl 05Star commenter

At first I thought 'must be a dyscalculia' child, but if they're all doing it, it sounds as if you need to do LOTS & LOTS of work on place value.

4. ### elephantfeetNew commenter

Sorry, do you mean they are actually reversing their numbers in that they write 36 instead of 63 or that they are writing their numbers back to front?

5. ### marlinStar commenterForum guide

Do you mean writing 14 as 41 or writing a sort of mirror image of the number?
Interesting if it's mirror image. My great-neice is in Year 1 and writes her name as a mirror image as easily as the correct way. No-one has taught her to do this - it is just as natural to her to do either.
Strange

6. ### JumpingStarfish

Hi guys, thanks for replying. Their numbers are reversed in the way they write their numbers - mirror writing style, but place value is fine. Just not sure how to correct it - if I ask them to check their numbers they don't realise until I tell them which numbers need to be the other way round. I've had it with the odd child before, but never with ten or eleven of them. Its very weird!

Marlin, I can write and read in mirror writing as easily as forward - have been able to do it from a very young age! Used to write page after page backwards!

7. ### Lara mfl 05Star commenter

In which case, I think, you need to do some kinaesthetic work, feeling the shape inside a stencil for example,feeling the shape of wooden numbers, writing in sand etc so their brain starts to make a memory of the correct way.

8. ### JumpingStarfish

Just for clarification, above is how all their numbers look! Weird, right?!

11. ### MszEstablished commenter

Snap except mine are Y2!
I'm starting from basics and re teaching number formation and I have told them I will mark answers wrong

12. ### minnieminxNew commenter

http://www.tts-group.co.uk/shops/tts/Products/PD1723292/

Have lots and lots of numbers on display in the classroom so they get used to seeing them the correct way round. And get tough with them about checking theirs are the same as the ones on display.

13. ### Teacher1974

Or introduce them to binary?!

14. ### marlinStar commenterForum guide

Oooh - didn't find those!

LOLOL

16. ### JumpingStarfish

Thanks for all the ideas guys. Will have a look at the resources. Have already started a basic maths display that I'm going to get up this week, and I like the idea of getting tough on them. They <u>should</u> know their numbers by now, right? I think part of the problem was the class they were in last year was 1) a job share, 2) had 31 children in a KS1 class and 3) the behaviour was shocking so the teachers were more worried that the work was done than the numbers were round the right way!
Also liking the idea of binary!?!?!

17. ### 24601_

???????????This has nothing to do with misunderstanding place value or the "dyscalculia" label. It is about children not being taught how to form numbers correctly and not being picked up when they do this. The only solution is to teach them to form numbers correctly and pick them up when they do not do so.

18. ### 24601_

And the peer-reviewed scientific evidence for this advice where............?

19. ### JumpingStarfish

I hadn't made myself clear in my first post - Lara thought I meant they wrote their numbers incorrectly - as in 41 instead of 14, which is why she made the suggestion she did. Going to have a hard stance on it from Monday - correctly formed numbers around the room, and getting the children to check their numbers before they finish their work. And after a week of reminding, I will start making work wrong if the numbers are still the wrong way round!