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Head of Ofsted has not taught...

Discussion in 'Education news' started by Grandsire, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. Grandsire

    Grandsire Senior commenter

    Apparently Amanda Spielman's admitted she's never actually been a teacher.

    Well, there's a surprise.

    With people like Spielman in charge, Ofsted are never going to address issues of workload, teacher recruitment and retention, or that their costs are simply adding to the funding crisis schools currently face. Why would they? It's just noise to them, surely.


    Honestly, is it too much to ask that the people making the decisions about education in this country actually have some chalkface experience?!
  2. install

    install Star commenter

    I blame some hts who allowed the art of teaching to be seen as: below them; not worthy of their time; and opened the door to none teachers being allowed to lead schools.

    If only more heads got together and summed up the courage to work as one powerful and professional body fully supportive of teachers and teaching.
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  3. sparklepig2002

    sparklepig2002 Star commenter

    I heard the interview. I wasn't impressed with her at all.
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  4. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    I agree with your general points but it isn't really news that Spielman has never been a teacher. It was discussed at length here and in the media when she was appointed, she was even questioned about it by the the Parliamentary Education Committee who scrutinised her appointment.
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  5. moscowbore

    moscowbore Lead commenter

    The last thing the chief inspector of OFSTED should be is an ex-teacher. That job requires a mindless civil servant who does what they are told.

    My stomach heaves at the thought of the new OFSTED powers which bojo has mentioned.
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  6. WB

    WB Occasional commenter

    All the previous heads had taught.

    Were they any good?

    It felt like a kick in teeth to the profession in 2017 when she was appointed but which of the previous ones were any better?
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  7. WB

    WB Occasional commenter

    Just listened to the interview

    I agree with her.

    In part high workload is the down to individual school ( SLTs) and individual teachers.

    It seems nothing will stop some of my younger, promotion hungry, commitment free colleagues from willingly throwing away their right to a work-life balance.
  8. install

    install Star commenter

    Hts and slt could stop it imho by encouraging a work-life balance and not putting stress and pressure on teachers.

    As for younger staff I find they are more clued up in that they get out and leave teaching asap. Many I have encountered start to rightly resent paying £39,000 to be qualified - only to earn far less. They see their mates in proper careers getting bonus payments, Overtime pay and higher pay scales.
  9. letap

    letap Occasional commenter

    Is somebody who was not a teacher better than one who was not a particularly good one?
    It was the recollection of a number of students that Chris Woodhead was not a particularly good teacher - possibly quantifies his statement about incompetant teachers, having been one himself.
  10. moscowbore

    moscowbore Lead commenter

    OFSTED could stop it by giving RI to one school for having ridiculous marking policies which make a decent work/life balance impossible.

    I am glad that spielman recognises that slt are to blame. So why not give the slt RI?
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  11. Luvsskiing

    Luvsskiing Occasional commenter

    "So why not give the slt RI?"

    Absolutely. They are paid enough so they should be responsible personally. Too many SLT are next to useless, do not have any skills in managing others and have no appreciation of how their poor decisions and nonstop task inventions overload teachers and makes it impossible to do their jobs properly.
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  12. teselectronic

    teselectronic Occasional commenter

    Quite a surprise to me!
    I am a fellow of IOM3 and to be awarded a fellowship, you not only have to have the academic qualification, you have to have the technical competence and application, should this not be the case in Teaching?
    I have worked in Education since 1988, as a Lecturer, Teacher and HOF.
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  13. a1976

    a1976 Occasional commenter

    Well, some of your heads (coughs), Academy leaders have never taught and couldn't teach their way out of a paper bag. Many rising 'stars' have only taught for two years.
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  14. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

    I was quite surprised as I have looked at applying to be an OFSTED Inspector and you have to be senior management.
  15. HazyTechNerd

    HazyTechNerd New commenter

    From experience it seems to me that the type of HT/SLT you get is largely dependent on the experience they had going through the teaching ranks. An HT that went into teaching straight from university, that was expected to work long hours with no real work/life balance and ridiculous marking policies will most likely expect the same from their teachers. Management requires a different skill set to teaching and it’s not enough to be an outstanding teaching when it comes to choosing SLT. Maybe I’m being naive but perhaps someone with a different perspective leading the inspectors will actually bring about a good change where work/life balance and mental health are taken far more seriously

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