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Have Ofsted 'changed the goalposts'?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by InkyP, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    This has been in the news a lot recently although I haven't had personal experience.
  2. giraffe

    giraffe New commenter

    I think you could add 'How many times..' in front of your thread title.[​IMG]
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    Satisfactory is the new good? No - satisfactory is going to be required to improve, even though the school probably is good.
  4. jacob

    jacob Lead commenter

    OFSTED and "reality" are not within the same framework.
  5. Henriettawasp

    Henriettawasp New commenter

    They have not only moved the goalposts - they have uprooted them and put them in a different stadium. Which you have to find.
  6. Seadream

    Seadream New commenter

    This is all reassuring news. It's hard to swap between 'parent' and 'teacher' hats and to be objective about what I see and what I know. I do feel for the staff there and feel prewarned about what I'll no doubt be going through soon enough...
  7. emilystrange

    emilystrange Star commenter

    we've had a lot of staff meetings based on the new ofsted stuff.
  8. tafkam

    tafkam Occasional commenter

    Have a read of the report... presumably it will enlighten you as to how they came to their conclusion, and what you think of it!
  9. Seadream

    Seadream New commenter

    I've had a read. It appears to imply that there are 1 or 2 substandard teachers in the school and this seems to be the reason they were marked down. It also says that the school will be 'sorting out this situation' by the end of this school year', so I'll look out for which teachers leave! It also says that some children misbehave during lessons (nothing unexpected there) and that some don't stay on target for the entire session (again, not unusual). It does seem a little harsh....
  10. midnight_angel

    midnight_angel Senior commenter

    We've got a whole day of this to look forward to, on the INSET on the first day back after the Easter holidays; I'm already so excited and over-joyed about just the sheer thought *yawns*
  11. gruoch

    gruoch Occasional commenter

    We were talked at for over an hour, with the obligatory all-purpose ppt, about this this week. I'm afraid I wasn't engaged, my attention wandered and we all found fault with the 'plenary'. (We'd woken up by this point as the car park was beckoning.)
  12. gruoch

    gruoch Occasional commenter

    Just had an email from a mate. Would have been judged 'good' on the old OFSTED crieria, but is now 'inadequate.'
  13. Seadream

    Seadream New commenter

    Well this all seems utterly ridiculous. How to completely undermine teachers, their successes and lower morale in schools. Well done Ofsted.
  14. bedingfield

    bedingfield New commenter

    This seems to be the way that things are going. A friend's school was recently inspected and previously outstanding teachers were rated as satisfactory and good teachers as inadequate. The main area for marking down seems to be the lack of pupil progression. If 85% of the class are not seen as making progress in the 20 minutes that Ofsted observe the lesson, then the teacher fails!
    Also, last week, I was on a course where the subject came up and I heard a similar story to that of the OP. It was concerning a school that had been downgraded to satisfactory from good and there was a significant number of parents planning to move their children to another school.

  15. mmmmmaths

    mmmmmaths New commenter

    How are they measuring progress?
  16. bedingfield

    bedingfield New commenter

    Wish I knew. How can they tell what a child has learnt if they only watch the first 20 minutes or the last 20 minutes.
    Perhaps there is someone out there who can enlighten us. I'm interested, as we're overdue a visit. Might give me a chance to be one step ahead of them.
  17. mmmmmaths

    mmmmmaths New commenter

  18. We have had our OFSTED under the new framework in January. We were gearing for OUTSTANDING and we were told that we would have been under the old framework (we were skipped over on the last framework because we got GOOD on the one before that) but got a Good with Strong features (new way of saying a strong good, with outstanding features) and were told that the inspectors were not expecting to see an outstanding under the new framework for quite some time.
    I am secondary so don't know quite how this translates to primary however.
  19. That is exactly what happened to me lately- hence why I am currently thinking of leaving teaching. Is it really worth all the stress and pressure we put ourselves through?
  20. Having observed OFSTED since its inception, I have reached the conclusion that the billions which must have been spent supporting the whole system, making schools, teachers and students jump through hoops, would have been better spent reducing class sizes and increasing the number of suitable teachers. OFSTED has done absolutely nothing to raise standards; as we pretty much thought when they kicked off.

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