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Has anyone seen anything of the £80 million?

Discussion in 'Computing and ICT' started by binaryhex, Mar 6, 2019.

  1. 3monkey

    3monkey New commenter

    Thanks BH. I wrote to the Head yesterday on the advice of my Union, asking the Governors consider my voluntary redundancy at the end of August in return for four months salary. I’m no expert on redundancy procedures but apparently it will save a lot of time and money for the school. We are guessing that the school will keep one full time teacher and a part time one, with the department being made part of another (we have a good HoD so a shame) and get rid of two full time ones and two part time ones. As well, the school looks like it will get rid of one technician, stop offering all Computing courses next year except in ks3 and reduce the Computing labs from four to either one or maybe two.

    I’m okay with it really. I was going to apply abroad anyway next year but it just means moving plans forward. I spent the weekend joining international agencies and doing my first two applications so quite excited really. Others at my school with families and more settled are gutted. They are a bit angry over a number of things, especially the time it has taken to get (or rather not get) proper continued computer training in place on top of all the other jobs they have to do, to help them change from an ICT focussed department to a Computing one. We’ve all been in overdrive for the last few years trying to get the pupils to embrace the subject but it was always an impossible job. Our results were always not so good as it is so hard to teach all the topics in the time and to make algorithms fun! I think I’m glad to be out of Computing in UK schools now. It seems a right mess with no clear path to make it better.

    And totally agree - we have no faith in the organisations supposedly set up for supporting us real teachers. It seems full of Hoo Rah Henries who don’t have a clue what proper teachers face every day.

    Right, let’s check the jobs section of the Guardian now ....
  2. flishflash

    flishflash New commenter

    Hey monkey - I just happened to visit this forum after a year and saw me in you! Visit this:


    Your exact same situation happened to me only 14 months ago. I'm now in a brilliant school, in a brilliant job teaching Computer Science, loving every minute, in Singapore!!!!!!!!! I love this place, and it's also fantastic for weekends away. I spent last weekend in Bali with my Singaporean girlfriend. You work hard here but the rewards are great, the children fantastic and everyone pulls together. No politics dragging everyone down, well-resourced, courses I can actually teach, reasonable class sizes and hardly any of the never-ending stupid behaviour issues I had to do battle with daily, nearly every lesson in the UK. No gutless SLT, no pointless "training" on bullying for the ninth time.

    TBH, I can't imagine ever teaching in the UK again. My salary is £53K (thanks mainly to a pitiful pound exchange rate though) plus flat, medical and flights and for the first time in my life, I'm actually solvent!!! Don't worry about anything. You sound well-qualified. It will happen. Asia is the place to head for, and Singapore is THE best.
  3. flishflash

    flishflash New commenter

    It was interesting visiting the CAS forum recently as well. Are you a member? They have good resources for all courses there, but everything else is pants. I cannot believe they are still debating whether or not there is too many topics in the UK courses after years of doing the same thing over and over again. And I see that the Head of their working Party is still not actually a mainstream teacher, and most of the members of their working party are not teachers, either. What is the point of CAS?
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  4. 3monkey

    3monkey New commenter

    Thanks FF. That's really encouraging that it happened to you but worked out well. It sounds brilliant and Singapore is certainly my top preferred destination, with Hong Kong then Vietnam next, then China, Thailand and Malaysia. I went to Singapore two years ago for a holiday and absolutely loved it. For city animals, it's brilliant. Easter this year is cancelled for me, as I will be filling out application forms for jobs in Asia. I've decided that I'm really not interested in the Middle East and teaching Arabs, unless one of the absolute top international schools advertise with top pay. I also have to get the (very long) process finished for joining a few of the better known agencies for international jobs. Two of the others in our department have also volunteered for redundancy but we won't know until after Easter. It's all quite exciting, as I am pretty sure that whatever happens, I'll be working somewhere abroad in August :) :)

    I know what you mean about CAS. TBH, I stopped looking at the site last year. It used to have a lot of good discussions but suddenly stopped being relevant to teaching computing - too many non-teachers posting and too many esoteric threads of no point whatsoever to classroom teachers in my type of school. And no real training was ever offered in my part of the UK. I think it's more for the Home Counties toffs teachers who are in the club and wear the tie if I'm honest, or that's the impression I got.
  5. flishflash

    flishflash New commenter

    No worries mate. We hang on in there for far too long in the UK making excuses to ourself why we should stay where we are, working like a donkey all hours and all days, teaching ***** kids in ***** schools, doing impossible poorly thought out Computer courses and endlessly trying to show 'progress' to satisfy SLT. Unless they have been there, people don't see what the problem is. Computer Science in the UK is all but dead in many schools in the UK now so getting out early before the stampede is very very wise. Sometimes, we need a push to get our life back again and redundancy is one such push - it will turn out to be a blessing. I hope you get a job in a Singapore because it is fabulous but competition is pretty tough here. Once in though, there seems to be lots of opportunities. Loads of foreign teachers have been at my school for over a decade and I can see why. This is my life now I hope for many years to come, although it helps to have a really hot Singaporean girlfriend! There are plenty of other really great places to be in Asia so just go for anything half decent and see where it leads you. I had 8 or 9 Skype interviews before getting the job I have - you need the practice and get much better with each one. Treat each one as a formal interview, with a suit on etc, read tips online about Skype interviews, maybe put together a website together to showcase some of your programming, apps etc. I did that and it really helped the recruiters, I found out later when in Singapore. If you need any help or advice, just send a conversation.
  6. binaryhex

    binaryhex Lead commenter

    Another vote for Singapore - a brilliant place to work and still cheap by western standards apart from rent. I gather the potential for savings is enormous via tutoring rich kids though but if you can embrace the humidity and like city living, go for it. If I were in my 20s or 30s again, it's where I would aim for, but look at Hong Kong as well.

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