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Guardian's famed objectivity; or not ?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by BigFrankEM, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. BigFrankEM

    BigFrankEM Established commenter

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...utives-criticise-orla-guerin-holocaust-report

    https://www.thejc.com/culture/interviews/interview-michael-grade-1.21757

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/232117

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/bbc-chief-anti-semitism-makes-me-question-jews-future-in-uk/


    (Obviously this would be better of on the Guardian website. But there is no space for reader-replies on the main article.

    And the moderators/ censors there do not take kindly to the slightest whiff of lèse majesté; still less to accusing it of biased reporting.)
     
  2. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Could you lay out your point?

    One story is from 2011, another from 2014 and the next 2017... then 2020...

    But Guerin's report was on the BBC... so not quite sure what the issue is with The Guardian.
     
    Jamvic likes this.
  3. BigFrankEM

    BigFrankEM Established commenter

    As the heading makes clear, I think, my issue is not with the story per se but rather with the Guardian's coverage of it.

    They quote 2 former (very) senior BBC executives, whom one might reasonably expect to have significant insight into the matter at hand.

    They go to lengths to stress the objectivity of one of the two, asserting that:

    "Cohen said he had been careful not to criticise the BBC since leaving almost five years ago, knowing the amount of unfair criticism it often receives, but that in this case he could not stay silent"

    The inference to be drawn from this is that of an objective highly informed former senior colleague of Ms Guerin breaking with his own self-denying ordinance not to bad mouth the corporation in order to highlight quite how egregious was her error.

    To repeat myself, as the strap-line of the OP makes clear, I believe, my doubt is to the degree of objectivity shown by the paper in choosing these 2 men as the people called as principal "insider" professional media witnesses in the case.
     
  4. lindenlea

    lindenlea Star commenter

    Who expects newspapers to be objective. The Guardian and Observer are undoubtedly left leaning and everyone knows that. BBC declares that it aims to be balanced in its presentation of all views but the printed press - no!
     
    Jamvic and peter12171 like this.
  5. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Wait... so your issue is you've just discovered the Guardian isn't impartial?

    SMH... O--K.
     
    nomad likes this.
  6. letap

    letap Occasional commenter

    The Guardian is about as objective as The Daily Mail, effectively different cheeks of the same a£$hole.
     
  7. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    eh?
     
    colpee likes this.
  8. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    again....eh?

    In terms of metaphors, that really is a race to the bottom.
     
    littlejackhorner and colpee like this.
  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Beh?
     
  10. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    Meh.
     
  11. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

  12. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    I understood the previous three posts better than the first three:rolleyes:
     
  13. BigFrankEM

    BigFrankEM Established commenter

    Your prerogative.

    Both to arrive at that conclusion and to shout it to the four winds.
     

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