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GTC Registration.

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by anon3407, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. Hello. I have received a letter from the (soon to be got rid off) GTC asking me to register. I figure for now it'll be best to do so.

    However, it states on the form that if I'm doing supply work I need to put the name of the agency down. Seeing as how I've signed up for four agencies (yes, possibly went a bit over board) which one should I put down on my form? Should I just wait to see which agency gives me work first and put them down? Thanks.
     
  2. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    It's not a good idea to join the GTC until you know that you have work. You could end up forking out £36-50 and get no work from now until 1st April, when the GTC subscription year starts again.
    When I was in your position, I waited until I had my first booking and then phoned the GTC to set up membership.
    When you get your first booking, you could use the form and put down the first agency that employs you.
    When you have registered with them, download a Tax relief form from their website, fill it in and send it to your Tax office. It will result in your tax code being increased so that you pay £7-20 less in tax.
    You can also get tax relief on part of your Union subs. If with the NUT, you can offset 2/3rds of the subs against tax; with the ATL it's 9/10ths. You'll have to contact your Union for the fraction allowed if you are with a different organisation.

     
  3. Thanks very much. Great help. Am I OK waiting until I deffo have work to register with the GTC? It says if I haven't done so by the end of Oct they'll assume I haven't gone into teaching.
     
  4. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Let them know that you don't have a teaching post yet and will contact them when you get teaching work.
    If you get Cover Supervisor work on supply instead of teaching work, you don't need to be registered with the GTCand if you are sent to an Independent school as a teacher, you don't need GTC membership either. It's only required for teaching work in the State compulsory sector (so not needed in Post 16 either).
     
  5. veni_vidi

    veni_vidi New commenter

    I thought i wouldn't be able to teach without the membership though. So if i got a weeks supply next week (unlikely but we live in hope) would i be able to just phone them and have instant membership?




    Thanks
    Veni (panicking as the completed form is still sat on shelf not posted)
     
  6. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Yes. That's what I did in 2003, when I went back to supply teaching. I rang them up the day before my first day of work.
     
  7. veni_vidi

    veni_vidi New commenter

    Brill thanks, just had a panic. I won't go into how much i resent paying it knowing it's finishing in March, at least it means i'll have a job :)
     
  8. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    There's no finish date for it yet. It needs an Act of parliament.
    Whether or not it goes by the end of March, the 1st of April has always been the start of the GTC fee year. If it hasn't been abolished by then, another fee will be due.
    I think that they should have coincided the GTC fee year with the school year.
     
  9. Well said stuart dann. Nice to see someone talking sense for a change. Who else would put up with having to pay to go to work ie GTC fee CRB fee (many times in alot of cases) Umbrella company fee need I go on??
     
  10. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Doctors pay huge fees for British Medical Asociation membership and also for insurance.
    Solicitors etc pay huge fees for compulsory membership of the Law Society.
    Architects have to take out compulsory indemnity insurance that covers them for claims for years after they retire/die.
     
  11. bigpig

    bigpig New commenter

    Many agencies ask to see that your are a member of GTC before they will get you any work so you can't join until you are a member, or they want to see your letter/card as soon as you are and will then find you work.
    One of my agencies gives me the GTC fee back after a couple of months of work with them.
    You should join now and not wait till you get any work.
     
  12. Both my agency and LEA wanted to verify my membership as part if their vetting procedure so I had to register to get on their books.
     
  13. Doctors pay huge fees for British Medical Asociation membership and also for insurance.
    Solicitors etc pay huge fees for compulsory membership of the Law Society.
    Architects have to take out compulsory indemnity insurance that covers them for claims for years after they retire/die.
    So Jubilee your argument is because other professions have to pay out maybe 1 amount, it is ok for supply teachers to pay and pay and pay for things like umbrella companies and not just 1 CRB check but many of them. I think that is a nonsense argument personally. They get paid much more than a supply teacher for a start so as a percentage of their overall pay it is very small. Do you think doctors would stand for having multiple CRB checks done at their expense? I think not. Check your British history they were against the NHS mainly due to the percieved loss of autonomy and financial renumeration. Yep it was down to money. Do you think any of the above examples would put up with the conditions we have to? Again they would not. Just to join the LEA supply list would cost me £15 for 3 years (and that was about 7 years ago) . We work in an industry that is parasitic. Other people making a living off us while we struggle to make ends meet.
     
  14. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    My information wassimply comparing the requirement for teachers to pay for membership of the GTC and for other professionals to have to pay for their much more expensive organisations.
    I made no comparisons with CRB charges or umbrella companies (of which I know nothing as I only work as an LA supply teacher).
    NB: When quoting someone's post you should click the reply button on their post, then highlight the relevant text and then click the QUOTE button . The quote will then be attirbuted in your reply box and you add your comments.
     
  15. We live in a world which is essentially parasitic since good old darwinian fight for survival has been banned by the socialists and the politically correct lib-dem handwringers!
     
  16. I feel you have missed my point entirely. Ok in absolute terms yes these professionals may (and I take your word on this) have to pay more, but in relative terms I pay far, far more. You may have ignored other costs such as umbrella companies costs or multiple CRB check costs, or LA supply list costs but why have you not acknowledged these? The vast majority of supply teachers have to pay them. I have had weeks where I work for half a day earn £60 and have to pay an umbrella company £20 to be paid. Would any of the other professionals you quote stand for this? Of course not. In reality Supply teaching is a minimum wage job. It may sound as though I am having abit of a go at you Jubilee but please do not take it this way as it is not intended. As a fellow supply teacher I would always totally back you to the hilt. My only aim is to show the reality of supply. Where people can't earn a living and are expoited for the benefit of other people. Thanks for telling me how to quote people though!
     
  17. bigpig

    bigpig New commenter

    Then why do you stand for it? Find an agency where you don't have to pay an umberella company.
    I may be lucky in the fact that a, I got a free CRB with my LEA supply agency, b, my 2nd agency let me port the CRB I paid them for and c, I don't have to pay to join an LA supply list.
    Jubilee was mearly stating that you should pay to join the GTC if you want work and that we are not the only proffessional body who has to do this in order to get work. A quick google for GMC fees brings up a page with fees in the £100s! We are lucky that ours is only £36.
    It is unfair to compare supply teacher costs of CRBs etc. to others. We are completely different in our way of work and of joining multiple agencies.
     
  18. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    If a supply teacher manages to get just one day of LA paid teaching per school year they get £33 extra pay (taxed etc) to help defray the GTC fee (chase it up if it doesn't appear with the first pay packet).
    Claiming tax relief on the £36-50 paid to the GTC and getting the LA extra pay means that membership is virtually free.

     
  19. Who else has to pay a professional registration fee for the right to work and then find that other unqualified people can do your work without having to pay that registration fee?
     
  20. Well said Bronco excellent point. And in answer to Jubilee who says that GTC registration is "virtually free" I didn't earn enough on supply to pay tax so of course can not claim any tax back. When most supply teachers work exclusively through agencies they can not do even 1 day for the LA. However you clearly do not know that you can in theory still claim that £33 from a school that you have worked for in April direct from the shcool even if you have worked for an agency. I know because I have done it a few times. However I stopped trying after I was verbally abused by an admin worker. Oh and bigpig I take it that your question was a rhetorical one? Why do I put up with it, because I have no choice. Find an agency who do not use umbrella companies? I think most if not all do. Again if I don't have the money to pay the £44 CRB check each time how can I join additional agencies? Even if I do I certainly have no guarantee of work so I could conceivably pay out hundreds of pounds for no work. It does sound as though you are very lucky in the conditions you work under. Most supply teachers are not that lucky. I did not compare CRB registration with other professional bodies either, Jubillee did that.
     

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