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Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by Pennyforyourthoughts, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. Pennyforyourthoughts

    Pennyforyourthoughts Occasional commenter

    Anyone else got any comments......................................
  2. Moony

    Moony Lead commenter

    To be fair I'd find it hard to teach a lesson completely from someone elses plan. However that being said the other week I had some days in my subject at a couple of schools and the cover work set was essentially just a line consisting of 'do X work in book' and I was able to wing some ok lessons based on knowing my subject and teaching around the topic and getting them to do the book work to consolidate the discussion. Horses for courses really.
  3. historygrump

    historygrump Lead commenter Forum guide

    I would agree with the comments to a degree in that many don't trust the cover to implement the work they would like to do and I feel that this as been noticeable in the last few years with the rise of the CS. In that many CS have not the ability or knowledge (and both madenglishgirl speaks, some have the knowledge and the ability, but lack the training of teachers, 'see I can be nice to you') in that they are recruited with out any minimum qualificatons guidelines, I wonder what a training college would say, if somebody applied for teacher training without a degree or in some cases even Gcse's?
    So teachers cannot generally trust many of the CS to teach the lessons, but just expect them to look after the kids for the lesson and that is why when schools see less then qualified CS as a cheaper option then teachers that schools start to fail the kids. I for one and like many supply teachers always seek to implement the work set and like many supply teachers do not let the kids have an easy day, which they expect when their normal teacher absent.
  4. Pennyforyourthoughts

    Pennyforyourthoughts Occasional commenter

    Another new school and another Ground Hog Day.....But an enjoyable one.... technician took the ceramics lessons .... I team taught and had time to actually go around and give one to one for once .as so often practical lessons are cancelled when they have cover.................................................. so all round we were all happy... not so sure about the Technician but he did have a history of being an Artist in Residence in schools so I guess he was also.
  5. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    I've been on long term supply most of the last year but the other day I got a taste of daily supply Groundhog Day Syndrome when I had to cover the second half of a yet another **** Y9 PSHE lesson. Within a very short space of time I'd got a kid wiping off the list of miscreants' names that the previous teacher had left on the whiteboard (seen that umpteen times before), and some silly insecure girl doing the 'I've got a God-given right to go to the toilet' routine.

    I told this girl I knew the script, I'd seen it in many other schools, and I trotted out 'women's problems', 'I have rights' I'll make a puddle on the floor' etc in advance to her but to no avail, she still did the whole hysterical pantomime from A-Z.

    In the end I aborted the lesson ten minutes early, took all the utterly pointless worksheets in, and stood silently at the front of the room staring out of the window until the bell went. Life's too short.
  6. I had an identical class last week, magic surf
    This is were the students/pupils get the idea 'you just a supply whatever you do doesn't count.'
    If the work is inferior the teacher must be inferior. There is some logic to their reasoning
  7. Pennyforyourthoughts

    Pennyforyourthoughts Occasional commenter

    It seems to me pupils are having TOO MANY lessons where they know that they are not going to be taught, as in being taught by their class teachers .... it soon becomes a pattern to respond only for the weakest link in their chain of cover personnel Those of us who have and wish to maintain where ever we teach, high standards and expectations when teaching for learning, seem to be going against what the pupils expectations are for a cover lesson.... to produce just enough by the end of the lesson (if lucky) to avoid sanctions.
  8. crusell

    crusell New commenter

    I covered an RE lesson last term, when I did supply and before I got another job. I looked at the work left and taught the lesson using basic teaching experience. One of the kids asked me if I was an RE teacher( I must have been doing something right). I replied I was a teacher and taught lots of subjects, which I have.
  9. shamsh

    shamsh Occasional commenter

    "I covered an RE lesson last term...... I looked at the work left and taught the lesson using basic teaching experience. One of the kids asked me if I was an RE teacher( I must have been doing something right). I replied I was a teacher and taught lots of subjects, which I have."

    And the implication being that RE could be taught by any teacher and they can be presumed to be a subject specialist? Most schools claim to want subject specialists if they can be bothered to fork out for a supply teacher instead of a CS, but I've covered so many different subjects and presumed to be a Maths/English/History, etc teacher, and it's so often more due to confidence in a new classroom with new classes, and being able to get them on topic with some general knowledge!
  10. emmadrg

    emmadrg New commenter

    I've been covering for a teacher all week and most of her year 9 class quite stubbornly refused to do any work at all because they were working on paper and not in exercise books (the teacher had them at home). They saw no value in it as it would just get chucked away. I made a point of telling them that I was here all week and as long as they put their names on the paper I would collect the work in, mark it and hand it back to them so they could stick it into their exercise books.
    They didn't believe me until I actually did it. One particularly obnoxious girl said as soon as she came into the lesson "I'm not going to do any work if it's on paper". So I kicked her out and she went to work with the HoD, and earned a lovely one hour detention for her efforts.
    The year 11 class didn't want to work either, so I kept them contained and let them do what they wanted.
    So many of them were "Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssss, can I go to the toilet?" My reply: "You can go to the toilet, but you may not go to the toilet". "It's my human right to go to the toilet". My response: "go ahead, do it here, we won't mind, and I have a human right to be able to do my job without whiny teenagers asking silly questions".

  11. Pennyforyourthoughts

    Pennyforyourthoughts Occasional commenter

    Right of passage apparently to play up? Phew not in the past... many feared the cane enough to conform.
  12. lol
    I'll remember that response for the next time I'm in a similiar situation

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