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Discussion in 'Governors' started by cornflake, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. cornflake

    cornflake Senior commenter

    I'm fairly sure I know the answer to this, but...

    Should a governor ever encourage a member of staff to take out a grievance against another??
  2. meggyd

    meggyd Lead commenter

    This is a ridiculous thread.
  3. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    It needs some context @cornflake

    If as a Chair of Governors I was approached by a staff member who wanted to complain to governors about another staff member I would probably tell them that wasn't the correct way to deal with their issue and that the correct way to handle it was through the grievance procedure. Would you call that 'encouraging a member of staff to take out a grievance'?
    Pomza, nomad and JohnJCazorla like this.
  4. cornflake

    cornflake Senior commenter

    no: i would call that the correct approach Rott Weiler.... where-as saying "I'd welcome you taking out a grievance" would be encouraging it (in my view) and implying that the grievance is justified before its even been considered!

    megyd - ridiculous in what way? ridiculous in that I even have to ask the question, yes - I'd agree.
    But sometimes people find themselves in situations where they think they are gong mad (and thus require an external viewpoint), because they can't quite believe any governor would do such a thing...
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  5. meggyd

    meggyd Lead commenter

    Just don't get involved.
  6. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    As head cornflake probably can't just ignore it.

    @cornflake If a governor is sticking his/her oar in uninvited then you are absolutely right. They shouldn't be. I've known it happen though, especially in primary schools. A governor who takes sides in some staff dispute. Or interferes in something that isn't governors' business (or might become a governing body issue at a later stage if governors hear appeals).

    Assuming this isn't the Chair I'd expect the head to discuss it informally with the chair
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  7. cornflake

    cornflake Senior commenter

    @Rott Weiler - thank you. I'm so sad that this isn't a unique experience...
    Lara mfl 05 and digoryvenn like this.
  8. digoryvenn

    digoryvenn Lead commenter

    No, it is not a unique experience but no one will stop it.
    Lara mfl 05 likes this.
  9. Skeoch

    Skeoch Lead commenter

    Depends a bit on how firm the ground is. Someone who is manifestly in the wrong, but spends their life banging on about being in the right, can be successfully challenged this way (applies to complaints too). They are told of the advantages of a formal procedure which will take evidence and come to a judgement; they buy this and then end up being shown evidentially that they are in the wrong. However if there's a trace of suspicion that they might just be correct, this becomes very high risk!
  10. cornflake

    cornflake Senior commenter

    An interesting view I hadn't considered... a "calling bluff" rationale. Hmmm!
  11. sooooexcited

    sooooexcited Occasional commenter

    The governor should refer the staff member back to the complaints or whistleblowing policy. They should make no comment about whether the staff member SHOULD use these policies but should ensure that staff can access them if they want to.
  12. Lattelady

    Lattelady New commenter

    Direct them to the policy and let them decide which course of action to take.

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