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Government solution to teacher shortage and agencies milking schools

Discussion in 'Education news' started by silkywave, Apr 13, 2018.

  1. silkywave

    silkywave Established commenter

  2. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    This is good news. it far too expensive to advertise on tes.
     
  3. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    You can advertise the vacancies - you still have to find the teachers to fill them.

    Simples
     
  4. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Will this at least mean more schools advertising their own vacancies rather than relying on agencies?

    If I look at TES there are few vacancies in my area - but local agencies have loads of jobs which aren't advertised by schools, on TES or on their own websites.
     
  5. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    some of those jobs probably don't exist remember.
     
  6. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    That's because most of them don't really exist. It's just how agencies sucker people in...
     
  7. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Yes, true. But I have been offered jobs by agencies which don't seem to appear anywhere else, it does happen.
     
  8. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Yes it does - when I was on supply a few years back I got a long term position via an agency that was never advertised.
     
  9. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    Not doubt this sometimes occurs - But advertising attractive vacancies with no named employer (merely 'our client wishes to attract...') is a common tactic used by recruiters in all industries.

    It gets people in contact, who can then be directed to other less-attractive roles, while the agency 'waits for the (made-up) client to get back to them...'
     
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  10. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Yes, I've had this as well.
     
  11. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    Personally, I'd stay clear of agencies wherever possible. That goes for employers and those seeking work.
     
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  12. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    Will a cheaper method of advertising make any real difference to the supply of teachers? There will be still the same teachers available. Some money might be saved at the margins. Do you think government lead IT projects ever work?

    You will always get free technical support...
     
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  13. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Me too, but having discovered that there are schools out there who only advertise through agencies, it means you miss out on some possible vacancies.
     
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  14. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    This is a good enough reason to do it. Recruitment service providers are leeches on school budgets.

    Thinking about it, why on Earth does such a thing not already exist?!
     
  15. moscowbore

    moscowbore Occasional commenter

  16. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

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  17. MacGuyver

    MacGuyver Occasional commenter

    Considering this was promised in 2016... I'll believe it'll happen when it's actually launched.
     
  18. silkywave

    silkywave Established commenter

    Teachers looking for a job know which schools to avoid. A list of vacancies should be held by the local teaching authorities. Oh no, the Government did the dirty on schools by removing money from them (given for initiatives, less for sixth formers) forcing them to became Academies.s
    The Rot spreads further....
     
  19. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Agencies proliferated and undercut or supplanted an LA supply system that used to provide competent teachers from a central point.

    Not such a bright idea now.

    OH's school can't afford to employ two core subject teachers in her department as there's no money. So the children are not being taught by a qualified specialist.
     
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  20. hhhh

    hhhh Lead commenter

    I remember the LEA supply list, it seemed to work well for teachers and schools when most of the schools in the area were LEA...
    Oh, any old teacher will do for OH's school surely, it's just babysitting. I was told by a woman currently teaching at XXXXXXXX that when she complained to her manager that her hourly rate worked out at minimum wage, she was told to go shelf-stacking instead...
    Teachers are so important, aren't they...
     
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