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Discussion in 'Scotland - curriculum' started by glasgowgirl, May 12, 2010.

  1. How old are you? That's the sort of comment I'd expect from a 10 yr old. If you can't be civil, at least try to use logic.
    hang on - wasn't java and flash around then? Couldn't they have used these tools that were constantly being updated and backwards compatible instead of relying on Microsoft?
    Ok, again I'll try to put it in easy language for you. Who made the decision to solve the problem of multiple file uploads on a multiplatform (covered in training) IT system by using a tool created by Microsoft - whose tools only work on PC's? Was it Glow, or was it someone else - perhaps it was XP or school technicians or perhaps the users who have not been properly trained?
    And this illustrates my point perfectly - if Glow had used different software at the design stage, perhaps they would be able to keep up. Look at the web2.0 applications today - constantly being updated and improved yet they are just as old, if not older than Glow. Bebo was launched the same year as Glow was commissioned.
    Macbooks are very common. I know of quite a few pupils and staff who use them.

    Video conferencing software - I think it was MSN or equivalent.

    Haven't seen much of this happening yet - there are not enough people using Glow to make it good use of time. Whats the point in joining a national group which has 2 main contributing members when I can get a committee together in the school with 10 contributers? Long way to go.

    I've borrowed lots of resources from various websites over the years. Forget Borders to Orkney. How about Edinburgh to California? You know that thing that Glow sits in? The internet? Contains way more teachers than Glow. There are forums and sharing communities all over the internet if you are prepared to look. Not only are they easy to access, they actually contain lots of shared resources. I've found more resources this month through Google than I've found in all my time on Glow. Next!

    Read above :)
    Keep the faith!
  2. You must teach in an affluent area of Scotland [​IMG]. I can only say again that the OS and Browser report data for my EA show that less than 1% of access was using Macs - and that includes traffic from other parts of Scotland (our EA main site has been made available to groups of usesr across the country)
    I'm interested in how would you go about setting up a collaborative project with a class or school outside your own school, council or even outside Scotland? Do you think that the JVSC (I assume that's what it is as most High Schools have one of these) limits what you can do particularly when you have to wheel the trolley with the 2 TV screens to your classroom? How do you share documents, presentations, images or audio during a VC using this system as you could using Glow Meet and the virtual whiteboard? How do the students take part? Are they just passive or do they actually collaborate?
  3. and in my experience, most 10 year olds are quite capable of admitting when they are wrong. On the other hand, this seems beyond you.

  4. And that 1% must be catered for, just like any other minority group?
    Glow is a multiplatform system, after all? (covered in training)
  5. I was wrong with my initial statement that you can only upload one file at a time. Deary me. If winning this argument amounts to getting me to admit something I stated incorrectly in my initial post, despite my acceptance that things have progressed in Glow since then and there is now IS a way to upload multiple files then you have missed the point completely.
    Can you now admit that it's Glow's fault to use a Microsoft solution to a multiplatform system?
    No? Then I'm not the only one that can't admit when he's wrong :rolleyes:
    Keep the faith!!
  6. You have always been able to upload multiple files in Glow.
    No. This is an opinion that you happen to hold, I don't. I will admit that others' opinions will differ from mine.
    Repeating something does not make it correct.
  7. Likewise.
    There is no point in attempting to discuss this further. You are unwilling to recognise the major limitations of Glow and, like others I have met, are treating it like some sort of religion - like if you believe in it, it will work for you. Keep the faith!!
  8. It does.
  9. So after a dozen pages, there's your answer, glasgowgirl: Yep. That would be Durkin.
  10. Durkin, all that sounds great but the fact is I don't do it. The stuff I want and need to do I can do with other technologies - the bit I really wanted from GLOW was the discussion boards and to be able to review, comment and add to written work. We do use it but not as quickly or easily as I'd like.
  11. There are many websites which offer you free forums. You can set them up to only be visible to members. This would give your classes the facility to submit their written work for peer assessment. There is also the option, which some educators have suggested is very good for the child, to make some posts visible to anyone and ask people to visit the site and make comments. I've read some great stories of pupils whose self esteem was raised dramatically when they realised that people liked the poetry they had been writing. Others were inspired to improve their writing after reading constructive criticism that was left as a comment. Added comments can be vetted (by you) prior to them being displayed, so there is no fear of any comment causing offense to the writer.
    Unfortunately, Glow is not so flexible for this sort of thing. You can invite others into your group, and within an establishment, its easy to do. Getting others from outside your establisment in to your Glow group, despite what the preachers say, is not an easy thing to do - you have to know in advance the names or class/school of the pupils you want to visit, add them to your group, allowcate permissions, then somehow send them a link to your glow group (My Glow Groups does not show groups from other establishments).
    In a forum, people add themselves - you just have to accept or decline. Much simpler. Also, advertising your site (should you wish your pupils to get feedback from further afield) is much easier. All you have to do is find a similar forum (there are many, especially in the US) and ask the members there to visit your site. You can't do that in Glow.
    Google "free forum" and check a few out - most will have some level of advertising, but there are some which have a very small amount.

  12. Thanks for the advice, mathsguy, but the reason I liked Glow was that it kept the online pupil/teacher contact nice and official with no opportunities for accusations of impropriety.
  13. It sounds like airy might be interested in Glow Learn, the virtual learning environment within Glow which is working well in our authority where it's in use. I should add it's one of the smallest and remotest LAs in Scotland - which is why our schools have seen Glow as a positive opportunity: we haven't had the wherewithal to put together all the resources Glow provides for nothing. And it's good for linking with schools elsewhere. It's not perfect but the majority of teachers don't have the time or expertise to set up hosted forums etc.

    However both pro- and anti-Glow factions will be glad of the fact that a major national consultation on Glow has just been launched. I understand the emphasis will be on how it can be improved further, surely something everyone can agree is a good move.
  14. Glow needs more than improvement (which suggests trying to adapt what is already there). The platform that it's based on is the reason it's so clunky and difficult to work with. Unless consultation starts from the premise that they are designing Glow v2, they are throwing their money away - Glow needs to be scrapped and rewritten with a view to making it user friendly and future-proofed (ie up to date and easy to add new technologies as they arrive). Anything less than that will be a waste of money IMO.
    I read that the contract with RM is extended until 2012. Is that enough time for consultation followed by a complete rewrite and beta test? Knowing how long the first one took, I'm doubtful.
  15. I tried but it wouldn't do what I wanted it to - I probably just need more training...
  16. Sounds like it. It really does need specialist training. Ask your Glow Key Contact or CPD person or even LTS. We sent colleagues to the training a couple of years back and it has borne fruit. We have a couple of departments where it is an integral part of their work with really good results. The pupils like it.
  17. That was a joke. I've done the Glow Learn training.
  18. As I am moving stages I thought I would access Glow to find ideas for topics and perhaps even a planner! The number of dead ends I arrived at was incredible. No one seems to be contributng to Glow.
    Under our Local Authority's directive we had to - even that has been patchy.
    As we reach the end of our academic year our hardware is as clapped out as the teachers. there is no money for upkeep or replacement...
  19. Can someone give me a simple answer to a question without getting upset or being petty. Which LAs are using GLOW on a day to day basis?

    Pretty please with cherries on top.
  20. Can't use it - in school or at home - doesn't work!


    I am perfectly ICT literate otherwise.

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