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Glenys Stacey interview today

Discussion in 'Mathematics' started by pencho, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. pencho

    pencho New commenter

    Is there any logic to Glenys Stacey's interview with telegraph today. Essentially agreeing with Gove. Basically get rid of AS. Make A levels more rigorous and ensure that everyone continues to study Maths. Get rid of modular approach. . Is this all possible and would it work. Just think we will go backwards with education nor forward if this all happens.
     
  2. DM

    DM New commenter

  3. pencho

    pencho New commenter

    The problem is that we dont seem to have a debate on things at the moment. Decisions seemed to be made without proper thought and debate. It doesn't matter what is said, Gove does not like teachers and gives them no credit, he will just push forward with what he feels right even though it could be disastrous. Surely the first thing we need before any changes to a levels is a debate on what they are for. Not this is what we are going to do.
     
  4. DM

    DM New commenter

    Strangely, the DfE keeps proudly boasting that this Government consults more frequently and more widely than any of their predecessors. I can't say I am aware of any open discussion of this particular issue though.
     
  5. pencho

    pencho New commenter

    We will have to see. Gove just will not listen. he supposedley talks to head teachers (wonder if he talks to any in the state sector). Universities have and always have had their own agenda. They complain about A level teaching, but think they need to get their own house in order before they criticise.
    Do you think Cameron might have a reshuffle anytime soon?

     
  6. No.
    Too many middle-class parents believe exactly the same as Gove and the Con-Lib Government.
    The Government has PISA statistics that "prove" the exam standards are slipping.
    That is backed up by employers saying the standards of Maths and English for school/college leavers is poor, even if their exam results are good.
    Finally, Universities are saying that most pupils are not ready for their courses. Too much requirement for remedial/extra Maths courses and help with English.
    What more "evidence" do they need?
     
  7. PaulDG

    PaulDG Occasional commenter

    I don't know if that's exactly true.

    But what certainly is true is that many "middle-class" parents (and middle class teachers, come to that) can see clearly for themselves that behaviour has collapsed in schools and that their own kids clearly "know less" than they themselves knew at those ages.

    And it's also clear to them that exams had become a bit of a joke.

    These parents don't know who is to blame, they just know the system is broken.

    And, from their point of view, since the system is broken, it's certainly possibly the fault of the professionals who work in it.

    And, know what?, they're at least partly right!

    The teaching profession speaks with too many voices, can't make its own collective mind up about behaviour (should we be throwing out badly behaved kids or giving them cuddle time?) and has rolled over when each and every new insane initiative has been pushed into schools.

    The only time there's been significant action of late was when primary school teachers refused to have anything to do with KS2 exams - and that was widely perceived to be about teachers bothered about their own workloads and not anything to do with what is better for the kids.

    So, there those parents are.. Their kids know less than they did.. The kids don't bring home exercise books filled with neat notes and lots of "proper writing" (instead they bring home next to nothing and never appear to be set any homework), they don't write essays - they "design a poster" (which everyone can see is no work at all) and they don't know their times tables or how to do fractions..

    And Gove says it'll all be better when the old poor teachers are thrown out and his new First Class Honours teachers are in post.

    You can see why they'd believe him. Or, even if they don't believe him, decide that it's got to be worth a try as things could hardly be worse!
     

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