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Getting that first appointment

Discussion in 'NQTs and new teachers' started by PaulAntonLowenthal, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Hi...
    I graduated as a secondary maths teacher with PGCE and QTS last summer (Jun 2011). Since then I have written bespoke application after application to a range of schools in the North West. I have also tried to get long term supply positions through a number of agencies.
    Are there now too many secondary maths teachers? Could any one offers me any advise on how to get that first appointment other than to keep applying?

    Paul
     
  2. Hi...
    I graduated as a secondary maths teacher with PGCE and QTS last summer (Jun 2011). Since then I have written bespoke application after application to a range of schools in the North West. I have also tried to get long term supply positions through a number of agencies.
    Are there now too many secondary maths teachers? Could any one offers me any advise on how to get that first appointment other than to keep applying?

    Paul
     
  3. Have you had any interviews? If not there may be an issue with your letter of application. My suggestion would be to get someone else (a friend, or better a colleague ((perhaps a mentor from one of your placements if you're still in touch with them)) to read over your letter of application to check you are hitting the correct 'spots'/haven't made any silly little mistakes which people have a tendency to miss when reading things through themselves!

    Remember to read the 'clickables' in the welcome thread in the jobseeking forum. Theo (the expert) has plenty of good advice to offer including how to set out an executive summary (which I believe has give me the edge as for the past few interview I've had those have been the applications in which I've included an ES).

    If you are getting interviews then I would consider thinking about your interview technique. Is it the lesson or interview part which you need to improve? You can of course contact the schools for feedback, most will be happy to give it to you.

    Would you consider moving from the North West? The reality is that there are about 6 teacher training colleges up here (yes I'm currently live in the NW too) who each turn out many newly qualified teachers each year. It's a very saturated market, although you do have a slight advantage of being a maths specialist.

    I myself have just started applying for jobs around the country (in hindsight I should have done this earlier) and have had quite a bit of success with getting interviews at least!

    Overall, good luck.
     
  4. You may also wish to consider changing your username if your current one is your actual name. It has been known for heads/recruitment people from schools to look at these forums, and you wouldn't want any negative sounding posts to be traceable to you, would you?
     
  5. Thanks for your +ve comments. I've really been disappointed in myself at not even getting short listed. So yes, it does look my 'letter of application' needs addressing. And yes maybe I do need to think of looking to find an NQT position out of the NorthWest. Have also changed my username too -silly mistake to make!!!
     
  6. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Yes, Shiny Shiny Star (who recently got a job Dear Theo- I GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!) is exactly right: you need to decide if it's the application or the interview skills that need to be improved.
    Do you need help with the actual application? If so there's masses to be found inside the Welcome thread at the top of the page on JobSeekers.
    Have you been reading all the advice there? I'll give an outline below:
    For an effective application, you should send:
    • an application form with every bit filled in, no "See letter"
    • an application letter OR personal statement. Not both but certainly one of them.
    • a cover letter ONLY if you do a personal statement. See FAQs inside the Welcome thread
    • an Executive summary. If there's a space on the form, put it in there; if not, put it at the end of your letter so that it gets printed out automatically. The shortlisting clickables explain about this.
    As a summary of the steps to take in getting a job:
    Point 1 Are you getting notification of all possible jobs? Do several JobAlerts here on the TES Forum, for all your subjects, and then repeat them all for the independent schools. * * * * How to set up a Job Alert * * * * is at the top of the page
    Point 2 Are you following the advice in the shortlisting clickables inside the Welcome thread?
    Lots of posters have found it gets them interviews - and jobs. Headteachers say that they appreciate candidates who do what I advise.
    Please take Theo's advice!
    taking Theo's Advice
    The benefit of an executive summary
    read theo's advice and do the executive summary people, it really does work, seriously!!!!
    Dear Theo: Executive summary works- I have an interview
    Point 3 Have you tried doing an interview practice with someone who will give you blunt feedback? You'll need to get ready for when you do get an interview. You might, for example, being doing something quite simple, like screwing up your face in a glare when you are considering an answer, which can be very off-putting. And which a school is unlikely to tell you about.
    Point 4 And then, if all has failed because you are already doing all this, then you should be thinking of getting on a train or a coach to come to the application seminars: the next one of Winning That Teaching Job is quite soon: Saturday 25 February, it will be led by me. ThIs is just before the February 29 resignation date, so you are all fresh for any new jobs that come up then.
    www.tes.co.uk/careerseminars
    Going to a seminar has worked for many posters
    Dear Theo.....I got the job!!!!!
    Course, the thought of meeting me might be a big No-No! :)
    www.tesweekendworkshop87.eventbrite.com<font size="2" color="#0000ff"> </font>
    There is interview training too in the afternoon that day:
    www.tesweekendworkshop86.eventbrite.com
    Point 6 Finally, you might like to open your piggy bank and come for a One-to-One session with me or someone else from the team. Again, people have found this helpful:
    Sign upto one of Theo's 1-2-1s....... JUST DO IT
    Dear Everyone... I met TheoGriff!
    Theo and tremendous support
    Theo's 'One to One' careers service....
    Now the last two cost money, and although it is worth it , it always makes sense to try out the free advice first!
    Best wishes
    ___________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Seminars. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
    I shall be doing the Win That Teaching Job seminar on Saturday February 25th
    www.tesweekendworkshop87.eventbrite.com
     

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