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Gay Teacher Overseas

Discussion in 'Teaching overseas' started by jaymiej, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. jaymiej

    jaymiej New commenter

    I am an experience primary teacher with international experience in Spain and Netherlands. I am also a married lesbian. My wife and I enjoy traveling and I like international teaching obviously our options are limited as we don't wish to face death or prison when we move but I was wondering if anyone had experience of being a gay teacher outside of Europe - which places were safe and obviously any which seemed safe but were not! I know we will never be able to do Qatar or Dubai etc but I'm hopeful to spread our wings a little further!
  2. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Established commenter

    I think you will find that your choices are not that limited. I have worked with loads of gay people on 3 continents. There are plenty of countries in Asia where you wont have any issues at all, and i have gay friends all over the world. Your life is not as restricted as you were thinking, in my opinion. Just get out there and apply.
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  3. jaymiej

    jaymiej New commenter

    Which parts of Asia in particular? My concern would not be so great if I were single but as a woman married to a woman I wouldn't be able to 'hide' my status nor would my wife and my concern would be if our safety would be in jeopardy?
  4. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Established commenter

    I was in Laos, but know of gay couples in pretty much every other country, including indonesia. Just apply and be up front about it, if its an issue for the school they will soon let you know.

    Good luck
  5. SecondPlace

    SecondPlace Occasional commenter

    Something to consider is whether schools in different countries can obtain a visa for your wife, as this isn't possible in every country. If your wife is also a teacher and gets a visa that way then you're fine. If not then it may prove more difficult - not because schools aren't willing but because the rules of their country don't allow it.

    From memory China was like this. I don't believe gay marriages could be recognised for visa purposes so the only gay couples we had were both teachers.
  6. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Established commenter

    I should say that most, if not all of the gay couples i know are employed as individual teachers and not as a "married couple".
  7. SecondPlace

    SecondPlace Occasional commenter

    As in they're both employed by the school? Rather than one half of the couple employed and the other there on a spouse visa? That would be consistent with what I've seen.
  8. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Established commenter

    Yes both employed.
  9. jaymiej

    jaymiej New commenter

    My wife is a teaching assistant not a teacher will this affect our options?
  10. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Established commenter

    Sorry...lost connection. Was going on to say, that at least a few couples i know were only employed as individuals, and could not get the "married benefits" as a package. Not sure how usual that is
  11. Teachallover

    Teachallover Occasional commenter

    Taiwan is closer to legalising same sex marriages...
  12. ejclibrarian

    ejclibrarian Established commenter Community helper

    Taiwan top court ruled in favour of same sex marriage back in May. Right now the situation is this -

    "The island’s parliament has two years to amend or enact laws addressing same-sex unions, otherwise gay couples will automatically be allowed to register under the current framework."


    I'm not sure how it will affect gay married couples wanting to work here but it's worth finding out. A fantastic place to live. One of my close friends here is married to a lovely Taiwanese lady. They got hitched in the UK a few years back but I'm assuming now their marriage will be recognized here too.

    Taiwan is a very open and free society and one of the most liberal in Asia.
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  13. lucid_dreamer

    lucid_dreamer New commenter

    Thailand is very accepting, especially of gay women. Gay couples are a common sight in cities and there are gay pop icons, etc. There's also a large and lively expat community in Bangkok, including plenty lesbian couples. The same issues apply with respect to government/visas as mentioned above but with a teacher/TA couple you may well get round that, and culturally at least you would feel quite comfortable, more so than in certain parts of Europe.

    WOMANONAMISSION50 New commenter

    I have had gay friends say they worry about the same backlash in some countries too, but you my try Mexico and as the respondent above says there maybe more options than you think...best of luck in your search.
  15. truth_seeker12

    truth_seeker12 Occasional commenter

    I dont think your options are so limited. I have save many gay people in the ME and many unmarried couples living together. People will leave you alone to live your life mostly
  16. pinot

    pinot New commenter

    Living in Vietnam and as long as you are married (not civil partnered) then the government will recognise your marriage and grant your spouse a visa, she will also be a dependent. There are loads of us here and its just a normal part of life, I have had less issues (read none, a little curiosity maybe) here than I have had anywhere else.
  17. Helen-Back

    Helen-Back Occasional commenter

    If all the gay teachers in my last had left in one go the school would have collapsed.
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  18. I teach in the CNMI. I’m currently living on an Island called Tinian. One of the main reasons I love living here is the acceptance of LGBT people. Gay marriage is legal and about 20% of the school’s staff is gay (including myself). I was looking at your post because I was thinking about looking for other places to teach, but it’s hard to leave this (also I like the tropical weather and the incredibly low cost of housing). Cnimpss.org or you can contact me for more info.
  19. ejclibrarian

    ejclibrarian Established commenter Community helper

    What is the CNMI??
  20. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    Commonwealth of the North Mariana Islands-it's out in the Philippines

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