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Future for the HLTA

Discussion in 'Teaching assistants' started by LaureRichis, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. With funding withdrawn for HLTA training and it now having to be paid for by candidates or their school I am assuming that numbers applying for training are in decline!
    I wonder what the future for the HLTA role is. Will it eventually become phased out?
    The promise of HLTA status has not been delivered for many who have undertaken the training. Many HLTAs have not secured HLTA posts but have increased responsibility. Some HLTAS only receive extra renumeration for the time that they are providing whole class teaching. Those that have HLTA positions often find themselves overworked and overwhelmed by their role and are finding themselves taking work and worry home.
    I do wonder what will happen when the wave of HLTA trained in the last few years have decided that it is their time to move on, what will replace them?
    Do HLTAs think that they will still be in their job in 5/10 years time? What direction do you see the role taking in the future?
    Like a lot of HLTAs I have a good few years under my belt. I began as a TA when my son was younger and it was a great job for me as I had no childcare costs. With my son now grown up I no longer need the school holidays and do wonder whether the long hours, extra work with very little extra renumeration is worth it. I feel less optimistic about the HLTA role and have met other similarly disillusioned HLTAs.
    Head teachers have found a way of managing the costs of PPA to school but at a personal cost to HLTAs who are not trained teachers but are increasingly expected to step into trained teacher's shoes!
    Am I just a grumpy moo or are there other exhausted HLTAs out there?
  2. I'm also a grumpy HLTA, and agree with everything both of you have said. This role just seems to get tougher, with more responsibility and less respect.[​IMG]
  3. modgepodge

    modgepodge Established commenter

    I feel for the HLTAs at my school. One has responsibility for sorting out all the ICT in school, and is given 1/2 an hour a week to do so. She takes daily intervention groups and is actually timetabled to support classes some mornings, and does a bit of PPA I think, but as soon as a teacher is away for any reason (sickness, course, observing other teachers - whatever) she is expected to cover, usually at half an hour's notice. She is obviously not paid any time for marking, so when I was out the other day she taught my class all day, but didn't have any time to do any marking (which she was v apologetic about). I was off sick so didn't mind too much that I had lots of marking to do (after all, I should have done all the teaching AND marking that day) but if I'd been on non-contact time I'd have been peeved to say the least. On Monday morning at a staff briefing we were informed a teacher had been signed off sick for 2 weeks and that this HLTA would be teaching for that whole time. Said HLTA wasn't even in the meeting and hadn't been told - this was at 8.30 on Monday! By Tues a supply was in so I can only assumed she objected.....
  4. No YOU ARE NOT A GRUMPY MOO. I have been wondering the same as you - what does the future hold for HLTA's? Since becoming a HLTA, my workload seems to have increased dramatically for very little financial gain. Ok, so money is not everything but I don't feel we are paid fairly for the job we do. Like a lot of other HLTA's, I am only paid at that rate when covering PPA. I do most of my filing, marking, finding resources and prepariing for groupwork and PPA cover in my own time at school and at home and yes I now find my job considerably more stressful. I don't want to be a teacher either but find myself doing more of a teachers job than a TA. I liked being a TA and never wanted all the hassle that went with teaching. If I had wanted that I would have done a degree and become a teacher!
  5. The main problem is the lack of understanding of what the role of an 'HLTA' is. Our school seems to have it right. We are not expected to act as teachers except in an emergency. A lot of HTs seem HLTA to mean class cover but they don't understand that it is one standard. I bugs me so much to see HLTAs covering classes and only get paid for that time. I honestly would leave the job if I was asked to regularily cover a class. The most I have done in the past is cover the odd afternoon or one lesson of SEAL per week in my own class. I see my own job as really making a difference to children I work with and I get job satisfaction from that. I would not get that from covering classes of children. I honestly think they should remove that standard from the HLTA standards it would make a huge difference. Of course some schools would still exploit their HLTAs. Makes me so cross!
  6. I am a HLTA in a secondary school. I do all the lituracy lessons for SEN students. I teach 5 lessons a day with very little preporation time.
  7. This is my experience of what has happened to HLTA's in the school [primary] I'm working in as an HLTA.
    Up to the start of this school year [Sep 2011] we had 6 staff with HLTA status, myself and one other worked only so many days each, are main role was ppa cover, first day sickness cover for teachers and covering teachers who had to attend meetings etc. We also did are own planning, assessment, and marking for each class we covered for PPA. For two of the HLTA's they did have additonal duties to the rest of us and are paid at a higher rate. This included such things as sorting out TA sickness and organising the running of after school clubs. In addition to are pay we were able to claim an additional amount if we covered a class which was not on are individual timetables. We specialised in certain areas I.E. foundation stage, modern foreign languages.
    We by compared to most schools could be said to be lucky. This was the arrangment set up by are previous head.
    About eighteen months ago are head in her second year at are school decided to reduce the number of HLTA's to 4 fulltime posts. The reasons given were costs and being able to justyfy the number of HLTA's in are school. Three of these four posts were slotted posts and for one of these HLTA's a pay rise to the next pay band up was given. This then ment there was one post left for three of us. We now had to apply for this post as if it was a new job. Two of us including myself decided not to do this, but we have got prototected salary for 3 years. [I'm getting near to retirement age but I still enjoyed my role even though I had reduce my days over time from 5 to 2]. This left one person who still had to apply for this post and have an interview. So for two of us are role would now be TA's and H.R. stated that it would be unfair to ask either of us to cover classes in the future, given what had happened if the school was short of a teacher.
    Since September [2011] there has been a TA who does not hold HLTA status covering PPA each week in one of the reception classes, with an HLTA status TA working in the classroom at the same time. We do have open plan for these two classrooms so may be that's how they get away with it. In addition to this there have numerous times when TA's without HLTA status cover classes from very short times to whole days.
    Also there in another TA who would love to become an HLTA but is not in a position to pay for herself to do the training, and she finds it very frustrating along with others to see TA's taking classes when there are two HLTA's not being used. so even now you could say that HLTA's are not valued, and thats two of us who deffinately wont have a job in 5/10 years time.
    On a personal level I know it was my choice not to apply for the one post available, but I do miss taking whole classes and larger groups. I am allocated to two special needs children on a one to one basis for my two days and part of me feels what a waste because surely I've got more to offer than that even as a TA.
  8. phatsals

    phatsals Senior commenter

    Once the phrase 'whoever the Head deems suitable' slipped into common parlance it seemed inevitable that TAs would take classes, why not, they are 'deemed suitable'.
    HLTAs are complaining that TAs are taking their jobs, what about the teachers who lost their jobs to make way for HLTAs, no-one was interested then and no-one will be interested now. Sorry but this is the way it's going and with financial cutbacks it will become moreso.
    By the way, it's 'our' not 'are', you have made this mistake 7 times in your post. This is very worrying, particularly if you have been covering classes with such a poor grasp of basic english.
  9. Hi, ive recently completed HLTA training,but im so confused as to providing the evidence for tasks,any suggestions ?
  10. I too have just completed my HLTA, I had my assessment last week. Lesson plans, IEPs(with names blacked out); school policies(behaviour, SEN, H&S etc) and photos of pupils' work all make good evidence. The key is to annotate them thoroughly. I referred back to the standards and tried to use wording taken directly from them in my annotations where possible. Has anyone else at your school done the training ? If so have a look at their file to give you an idea of how to go about it. Also there is an excellent forum where lots of HLTAs have posted advice, if you google 'HLTA Forum' you should find it easily. Good luck, I am sure your file will be great!
  11. Check out http://www.teachingsupport.org.uk there is an excellent thread on there.
  12. Thanks very much,youve been most helpful [​IMG]
  13. I achieved my HLTA years ago. I was led to believe that there would be no HLTA jobs avaliable in the school. However TA's were given promotion which in effect were HLTA status even though they didn't have the quilfications or experience. Add insult to injury those TA's had more responsbility, a bit more pay and they took charge and I had to listen to them!
    I did raise the issue with managers but they couldn't see the problem, I finally saw sense and left. But it was a shame as I did really enjoy working at the school.

  14. snugglepot

    snugglepot Occasional commenter

    That seems strange but they will now have to have HLTA status if they are in a HLTA position as we have just had a directive from the Local Authority about it with regards to Single Status. I presume this is happening nationally.

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