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Fun and games with JSA.....need some input from those that have dealt with being told they can't claim because they're a supply teacher

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by Moony, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. Moony

    Moony Lead commenter

    (below is a copypasta of what i posted in the supply forum)

    In a nutshell, i'm working supply as i had a1 year contract at a
    school i wasn't happy with, i left the contract and signed up with a
    supply agency to make sure i would have some money till i worked out
    what i was going to do next (i was ready to walk from teaching). Had a
    nice time at that school and my confidence was rebuilt and by the end of
    the academic year i was ready to look for teaching jobs again, which is
    about when I started claiming JSA when there was no work. Come sept
    and I get a part time long term contract job, which works out better for
    me than being on the dole so i sign off during term time. I sign back
    on over half term no problems but then i go to sign back on today and
    the woman that dealt with me was saying that because i'd have a regular
    pattern of when i was working and when i wasn't working i'd probably not
    get JSA.

    She did the paperwork anyway and it's gone off
    for some decision thing but as you might understand i'm a little bit
    annoyed by this. I tried telling her i'm doing supply because it means
    i'm not on the dole whilst i look for a permanent job, but apparently
    because of the fact we're paid differently to perm teachers i'm on a
    higher rate to account for holidays so like school canteen staff i would
    not be eligable for JSA. I'm fortunate that I know my part time long
    term job will run until the end of feb but beyond that I've no idea what
    will happen. Chances are the person i'm covering for will be off for a
    while but as i'm sure you're all aware there is no real guarenty in
    that. I think the thing that's really annoyed me the most is if i
    hadn't taken this long term job the JC would be chasing me to find out
    what work i've been looking for and chastising me if i didn't accept
    work!! So it's either work when i can and not be eligable for help when
    i need it or be one of the feckless mooched on JSA* that could work but
    opts not to!

    *I specifically mean what i say, those that
    could work but opt to avoid it, i know there are plent on JSA that
    would love to work.

     
  2. Moony

    Moony Lead commenter

    (below is a copypasta of what i posted in the supply forum)

    In a nutshell, i'm working supply as i had a1 year contract at a
    school i wasn't happy with, i left the contract and signed up with a
    supply agency to make sure i would have some money till i worked out
    what i was going to do next (i was ready to walk from teaching). Had a
    nice time at that school and my confidence was rebuilt and by the end of
    the academic year i was ready to look for teaching jobs again, which is
    about when I started claiming JSA when there was no work. Come sept
    and I get a part time long term contract job, which works out better for
    me than being on the dole so i sign off during term time. I sign back
    on over half term no problems but then i go to sign back on today and
    the woman that dealt with me was saying that because i'd have a regular
    pattern of when i was working and when i wasn't working i'd probably not
    get JSA.

    She did the paperwork anyway and it's gone off
    for some decision thing but as you might understand i'm a little bit
    annoyed by this. I tried telling her i'm doing supply because it means
    i'm not on the dole whilst i look for a permanent job, but apparently
    because of the fact we're paid differently to perm teachers i'm on a
    higher rate to account for holidays so like school canteen staff i would
    not be eligable for JSA. I'm fortunate that I know my part time long
    term job will run until the end of feb but beyond that I've no idea what
    will happen. Chances are the person i'm covering for will be off for a
    while but as i'm sure you're all aware there is no real guarenty in
    that. I think the thing that's really annoyed me the most is if i
    hadn't taken this long term job the JC would be chasing me to find out
    what work i've been looking for and chastising me if i didn't accept
    work!! So it's either work when i can and not be eligable for help when
    i need it or be one of the feckless mooched on JSA* that could work but
    opts not to!

    *I specifically mean what i say, those that
    could work but opt to avoid it, i know there are plent on JSA that
    would love to work.

     
  3. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

     
  4. mmm...Milk

    mmm...Milk New commenter

    <h3>You are going back to work in January? so you only have 2 weeks without pay entering into your account, but as your supply rate includes holiday pay, this is correct. You aren't looking for work with an imediate start, because you have a job to go back to. So you aren't eligable for JSA because in their eyes you have a job. For the summer, yes, because you could find a temporary job over the summer (non teaching - that is what was expected of me), in february if your contract isn't renewed and you have no work to go to, so no income at all, then yes, you are unemployed. Just because your job is temporary, you are still employed. If a supply teacher works more than 16 hours in a week, they have to sign off and then sign back on again, even if it is only that week. Bear in mind also, that the 16 hour rule also depends on how much you are actually earning. Supply teachers rates mean that you can be seen as working more than 24 hours if your weekly income exceeds a certian threshold.
    Don't be surprised that you don't get anything because you aren't technically unemployed. Not what you want to hear, but trust me, your experiance is nothing compared to the experiance of being unemployed properly, long term. </h3>
     

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