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Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by OdetteBooysen, Jun 28, 2017.

  1. OdetteBooysen

    OdetteBooysen New commenter

    Hi everyone! :D

    I'm a qualified teacher from South Africa and currently working in China as an EFL teacher.

    I'm quite interested in teaching in the U.K. But I know the process can be quite daunting. :confused:

    Is there anyone who can guide me in a useful direction? :cool:
     
  2. drvs

    drvs Star commenter

    What do you want to teach in the UK? Age range, subject? Without that info it's hard to say what your chances would be in the following, but I would strongly advise that if you have something desirable you apply only to independent schools. There are lots of these in the South East, but the cost of living is highest here so in some respects you would be better off looking further up the country, if you're not the metropolis type.

    I would strongly recommend not entering the state maintained sector in the UK.
     
  3. Pao1989

    Pao1989 New commenter

    Hi Odette,

    I've sent you a conversation thingy.

    Pao
     
  4. isotonic

    isotonic Occasional commenter

    I wonder what would attract anyone to teach in the UK after working in China - I am currently in the UK having been teaching for about a decade in secondary state schools and a few colleges (16+)

    I would say the poor attitude to learning of the students and lack of respect of authority the paperwork(planning-prep-assessment etc.) in the UK really does take a chunk out of ones social life - all for a salary that one cannot really save much
     
  5. OdetteBooysen

    OdetteBooysen New commenter

    Th
    Thanks I replied. Appreciate
     
  6. OdetteBooysen

    OdetteBooysen New commenter

    Hi drvs

    I'd like to teach either of my majors, so mathematics or science. I'm qualified to teach ages 10 - 16 but my preference is ages 13 - 16.

    Thank you for the advice about schools and areas.

    Any idea about the legalities behind working in the U.K. For a South African citizen?
    o
     
  7. OdetteBooysen

    OdetteBooysen New commenter

    Hi isotonic

    I think I've always wanted to get a "first world" education system experience once I've completed my experience here in China.

    I have a long term goal in life to eventually return to my home town and become a principal. Together with completing the necessary studies I thought obtaining teaching experience in as many different types of education environments would contribute to my leadership style one day.

    I'm just wondering how the legality behind working in the U.K. works for a South African citizen?

    What would be the average salary p/month, if I may ask.

     
  8. isotonic

    isotonic Occasional commenter

    Salary depends on many different factors - however on average excluding London the average classroom teachers salary with experience between 5-10 years would be £30-40k per year excluding tlr. Obviously there are many other factors to consider including cost of living - London offers higher salary but the cost of living negates pretty much all of it.. per month I guess it would be around £2k-2500 per month on the higher end of a normal classroom teacher
     
  9. tb9605

    tb9605 Occasional commenter

    Maybe consider Bristol - one of the greeniest and happiest cities in the UK. Nowhere near as expensive as London, though pricier than Northern cities. Also desperate for Maths and Science teachers, so you may be able to effectively name your price. 5 years experience you could probably negotiate £30,000 as a starting salary. No idea about the legalities, though I've met other teachers from ex-British colonies (Kenya, Australia, Jamaica) working here, so it must be possible.
     
  10. blueskydreaming

    blueskydreaming Lead commenter

    See here for some info: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...a/file/387894/OTTs_web_guidance_10_Dec_14.pdf

    You need to check that your qualifications are acceptable, through NARIC (Google them).

    You'd have to find someone to offer you a job, and sponsor your visa.

    You'd need to meet other visa requirements (TB test, proof of English ability, etc.). See here: https://www.gov.uk/apply-uk-visa

    You'd have to gain QTS (qualified teacher status), while working, within the first 4 years, as teaching certs from SA are not considered to already include QTS.
    See here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/qualified-teacher-status-qts
    Assessment only route: https://getintoteaching.education.g...s/specialist-training-options/assessment-only --- note, you need to be an 'experienced' teacher to go down this route, and teaching EFL in China does not count towards that experience, only secondary experience teaching your subject counts. Also, you have to pay to do this route.

    Some areas of the UK are desperate for Maths teachers, but as you have no understanding of the UK curriculum, and the school would have to go through the hassle of sponsoring you, it might not be worth it for them.

    UK schools always see you teach during an interview lesson, but you would not be able to do that, as you are not in the country, and cannot come here without a visa, so again, that would put people off employing you.

    If your preference is 13-16 years old then that's a problem, as we don't have middle schools in the UK, we have secondaries either with or without sixth form (so, 11-16 or 11-18). You could not ask your employer to only let you teach 13-16, they need Maths teachers to teach across the curriculum.

    Do you have any teaching experience in your own country? Teaching EFL does not count as appropriate experience, as I said above. If you do not have experience, then you will not be successful.

    If you think you can meet the above requirements, then Google the UK national curriculum Key Stage 3 and 4, and do a knowledge audit.

    Also, in terms of salary, as you don't have QTS I believe that you'd be paid as an unqualified teacher, so that's half of what people are quoting in posts above.
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2017
  11. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    Unqualified teacher maximum pay before tax is £19 497 outside of London. Inner London the maximum is £23 571. Really terrible money for the UK
     

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