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Frees in secondary

Discussion in 'Pay and conditions' started by Random175, Dec 23, 2011.

  1. Random175

    Random175 New commenter

    How many frees do mainscale teachers normally get in secondary. I am not talking about ppas. I get one free every two weeks. Someone who I met recently said they had two per week and it didn't include their ppas. I have looked through the pay and conditions document and realise it is not an entitlement but was wondering what the usual picture was. I teach two year 10 classes as well - this person suggested it was the number of key stage four classes she taught which made the difference to the number of frees she was given in her school.
     
  2. Random175

    Random175 New commenter

    How many frees do mainscale teachers normally get in secondary. I am not talking about ppas. I get one free every two weeks. Someone who I met recently said they had two per week and it didn't include their ppas. I have looked through the pay and conditions document and realise it is not an entitlement but was wondering what the usual picture was. I teach two year 10 classes as well - this person suggested it was the number of key stage four classes she taught which made the difference to the number of frees she was given in her school.
     
  3. tafkam

    tafkam Occasional commenter

    It depends on the school. There are no rules.
     
  4. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    Correct. Moreover, there is no point in collating statistics about what teachers get in other schools, because you head is under no obligation to give you more non-contact periods.
     
  5. strawbs

    strawbs Occasional commenter

    been none at my school for years............I imagine it will be similar at lots of others due to financial pressure etc
     
  6. DaisysLot

    DaisysLot Senior commenter

    Mainscale teachers at both schools I have worked at teach 44 out of 50 hours a fortnight, with 5 PPAs and 1 other non contact period - I don't think referring to them as 'frees' is healthy :p
     
  7. Random175

    Random175 New commenter

    Alot of assumptions made from my posting.
    I am not collecting statistics. I stated I realised it was not an entitlement, I was merely wondering what the usual picture was. 5 ppas and one free oops sorry how unhealthy of me 1 non-contact time. Oh except I often have contact with pupils during my frees/non-contact time for a myriad of reasons.
    I am considering moving school and have also considered working less hours. However if it were more common to have more frees in other schools then that is something worth knowing.
    Thank you and merry Christmas.
     
  8. DM

    DM New commenter

    Mainscale is 45 out of 50 per fortnight in my school i.e. no "frees".
     
  9. DaisysLot

    DaisysLot Senior commenter

    Random - It is customary to thank folk for reading your post and offering a reply, not to have a huff because you didn't get the answer you wanted.
     
  10. DBizzle

    DBizzle New commenter

    at my school the usual loading is 55 out of 80 in every 2 week cycle, so relatively relaxed, though you are expected to help out with sports after school on 4 days a week
     
  11. Random175

    Random175 New commenter

    Thanks - as I expected what this person was telling me was not usual at all.
     
  12. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Do you also have a form? If so, shouldn't you get 10% ppa for the contact time with them? In my school, contact time with a form amounts to just under 3 hours a week, meaning that we should get3 1 hour periods ppa. We actually get 4 "frees".
     
  13. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    We have a programme of stuff to teach them during pm registration time, except for one assembly per week. In some ways, preparation is harder, as it is not in our specialist subject areas. But not much marking! Our total for form time is 35 minutes a day, making 2 hours 55 minutes a week, If you only have 75 minutes a week, it suggests that we have 20 minutes per day extra in front of the students.
     
  14. DM

    DM New commenter

    Not necessarily. Our lessons may not be the same length.
     
  15. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Good point. I'd assumed you had 25 periods of an hour each week, the same as us, but had no reason for that assumption..
     
  16. DM

    DM New commenter

    25 x 65 mins per week for us.
     
  17. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Secondary teachers used to get more free periods (extra to PPA) in the days before Rarely Cover.
    They'd get 2 or 3 'frees' per week but they were potential contact time. The school was abl;e to use them for cover lessons around the school for a maximum of 38 hours per year. When everyone was looking forward to Rarely Cover, I told them they'd end up with a bigger permamnet teaching timetable for which they'd have to plan and assess (instead of doing their usual marking in a cover lesson).
    In my estimation, Secondary teachers are now teaching for one hour more per week than they were before Rarely Cover. That menas that the maximum 38 hours of potential cover has become 38 hours of timetabled teaching.
     
  18. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    This is one reason why I think that teachers should insist on getting their full PPA allowance, taking it as a percentage of all contact time and not allowing extra meetings etc to intrude on it. At my school, we still get about an hour a week as an extra "free", so I am more inclined to be flexible even if it means weeks when I get below the PPA minimum. If that changes, so will I.
     
  19. wow, I didn't realise how well off the teachers are in the school I teach in. We all have our allocated PPA (5 periods/2weeks) and 5 non-contact periods on top. The non-contacts are very rarely used as cover - in two years I haven't been used once!
     
  20. Random175

    Random175 New commenter

    Now that would make a difference! Essentially a four day week! Is it a high school where most lessons will be preparing children for an exam?
     

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