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Freedom of choice is the highest moral principle.

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Eureka!, Feb 1, 2016.

  1. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    I wake up every morning FREE!

    It's lovely.

    Do you?
  2. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    Sorry to sound smug .... think of it as more of a debating contrivance
  3. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    How much freedom of choice do you believe you actually have?
  4. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    Only that much I have forged for myself.
  5. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Forgery is also handy for claiming unlimited wealth.
  6. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Can't make his point on one thread. Starts another thread.
  7. Burndenpark

    Burndenpark Star commenter

    I think to be more precise- was shown to be wrong on another thread so tries his arm here.

    Krystalnacht- were those attacking the Jews have freedom of choice or not- and if not what was forcing them?
    wanet likes this.
  8. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    I may take a look at what's happened since he was corrected over the weekend.
  9. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    [QUOTE="Burndenpark, post: 11574353, member: 198843
    Krystalnacht- were those attacking the Jews have freedom of choice or not- and if not what was forcing them?[/QUOTE]

    Just because freedom of choice is a high moral principle - the highest even - does not mean it can be allowed free reign.

    My proposition would be that free choice needs to be given more importance when looking at moral or political problems.
  10. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    Who wants anything without limit?
  11. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    OMG I was corrected? How orgasmic for you!
  12. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Freedom of choice has no moral principle... you are free to be morally good and free to be morally bad.

    A serial killer is engaging in freedom of choice.
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  13. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    Well yes, but it is possible to be similarly reductionist about anything claiming to be a moral principle. For example, the moral principle "help others" ... one could help a serial killer.

    All I am asking is that freedom of choice is considered a Good Thing.
  14. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Help a serial killer to do what? Pick flowers for his mother? Rescue a kitten? Dispose of a body?

    And as I've said, choice can be both so you've got quite a hill to climb there.
  15. Lascarina

    Lascarina Star commenter

    Isn't this the sort of airy fairy 'discussion' one had as a teenager at school when one thought one was being 'deep' and full of meaning?
  16. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    Possibly....and it still feels good! Much better even, for now I am mightily confident.
  17. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    I hadn't noticed that :p:D
  18. Lascarina

    Lascarina Star commenter

    Of what?
  19. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    Of my thought processes (the validity thereof); of my persona; of my relation to the world.
  20. Lascarina

    Lascarina Star commenter

    Oh dear! Ever heard of hubris and nemesis?

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