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Free Broadband

Discussion in 'Personal' started by artboyusa, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

  2. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    It ill be free in the sense that Premier Inn WiFi is free, i.e wrapped up as a cost in other charges. I suspect the service will be similar too - a connection that is so throttled that it is barely worth the bother.
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  3. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    So last week art... today they are offering free band one dental...

    Free stuff for all...
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  4. lunarita

    lunarita Lead commenter

    And this,

    Nationalising the Royal Mail along with water and energy grids would pay for itself within seven years, according to new research.
    A new report by Greenwich University’s Public Service International Research Unit [PSIRU] says nationalisation would save UK households £7.8 billion each year.



    Which would happen faster - the nationalisation paying for itself or post-brexit trade negotiations being successfully concluded?
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  5. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    It's unclear to me how it would pay for itself. Is that how long it would take the government to recover the acquisition costs via customers' bills?
    Kandahar likes this.
  6. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    Unite Leader tells the working classes "come home to Labour".

    As a white working class male, Labour is the last place I'd come home to.

    For Labour I'm the enemy. If I was black, if I was LGBT+/- whatever, If I'd just come here in the back of a lorry or in a dinghy, if I was in a gang, if I was a terrorist, maybe, but I'm just a white working class male so I've no appeal to Labour and would be at the back of the queue for any help.

    It's bad enough with the tories, but when a supposedly socialist political party can't even care about its own countryfolk there's no way I'd ever vote for them again.
  7. lilachardy

    lilachardy Star commenter

    I take it all with a pinch of salt.
    It's what they would like to do not what they intend to do.
  8. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Labour with Corbyn:

    Free Broadband
    1000 Sure Starts
    £10 wage p/h
    £26bn NHS
    Axe NHS Privatisation
    Axe Bedroom Tax
    Fund 2nd Degrees
    Axe Universal Credit
    Abolish Homelessness
    Ban Fracking
    Free Prescriptions
    Free NHS parking
    Gender Pay Act
    Robin Hood Tax
    Axe SATs
    Ban Zero Hours

    Who do working class heroes vote for these days then?
  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    So households would have 7.8 billion extra... not the government...

    Or are you saying we can expect that £7.8 billion saving to be taken in taxes by Corbyn?

    My father's already moving what little savings he has for their old age to overseas accounts in readiness. Labour's announcement wiped £500 million off BT share prices which will impact pension funds... the man is a menace.
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  10. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Views like those must be challenged wherever they raise their ugly head, and they are being raised by ignorant *****s all over the Internet. Jude, you entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. I understand that you are miffed with Labour because it didn't support whatever it is you wanted it to support, but to try and claim there is a "colour bar" in its policies and within the Party is unacceptable and straight wrong. Your views are evil, wrong, and I'm calling you out. Crawl back under your rock and stop propagating lies.
  11. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    he is indeed a menace. A menace to global corporation who won't pay their fair share of tax, and a menace to very rich individuals who hide their funds offshore. To ordinary individuals in this country he offers hope - the best hope for us becoming far more of a Nordic capitalist country.
  12. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    When he thinks of a way to do that, please post a copy here.
    (Fair share of tax is not an accounting concept)
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  13. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Well said Mr Fawley.
  14. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Corbyn and the unicorn.
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  15. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    There's no such thing as a free lunch.
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  16. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    Apparently, many people are willing to believe that there is. Me, I'm sure that giving government control of the internet will be just fine; will never be abused and will be done with the same far-sightedness, efficiency and care with which government does everything else. And even if it does cost 3X more than they say, who cares? "the billionaires" will pay for it, because billionaires are rooted, like trees, and neither they nor their money can ever move away from here. Not like they did last time.
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  17. Skeoch

    Skeoch Star commenter

    Those of us of a certain age remember the nationalised industries. Railways carried many fewer passengers in much worse conditions and with worse service than now (yes it is possible!). It took a wait of a year or more to get a phone line, and that is after letters to my MP. Some of us will remember Bernard Levin writing about North Thames Gas. The diaster of the nationalised motor industry was another example.
    Nationalised industries rely on government (taxpayer) money for their investment. As soon as there is a shortage (Party X wants to cut taxes, or Party Y wants to increase current spending) the investment tap is turned off.
    Taking the assets at less than market value (which has been mooted for Royal Mail and water, at least) will expropriate some investors - who happen to be pension funds. Those with teachers' pensions needn't worry of course, but BT employees among others should do.
  18. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    And so the working classes are going to vote for Thatcherism again. The gullibility of those who believe the Tories care for them despite the evidence is quite staggering. Public services are there primarily for the poor, providing the things they cannot provide for themselves in a capitalist society. Yet they put up with constant cuts to and nibbling round the edges of those services. They don't seem to appreciate that they get services such as healthcare and education for far less than it costs to buy privately, because the state operates economies of scale, plus hefty subsidies. Maybe we do need a return to a 1930s situation, where you paid to see a doctor, and all medicines had to be paid for. The result was "do-it-yourself" healthcare and quack/patent medicines and old wives' treatments. I suspect though, that if we did, the poor would still believe that it was all the fault of immigrants stealing their medicine because the Daily Express told them so.
  19. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    It is true that the management of some of these nationalised industries was catastrophically bad, but not universally. CEGB was widely admired for its efficiency and effectiveness, for instance.
  20. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    You should reconsider those last two sentences. Really.

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