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Discussion in 'Teaching assistants' started by hubcap, Jun 10, 2008.
Anyone done or doing the foundation degree? What is it like? What are you hoping to get out of it?
I di the foundation degree, it's quite good in that you get to ask questions in school because you've got an essay to do that some peoplr wouldn't normally answer. I'm going on to a rtp so it's good for that, you can also go on to do a Bed at the right institute.
However,DONOT go through Edge Hill University they are really,REALLY, I cannot stress enough really rubbish. I don't know anyone on my course who were really happy with it. Distance learners were treated like second rate students lecturers didn't turn up resources weren't given it was a nightmare! - other than that a foundation degree might be a good idea, depends what you want from it
sorry forgot to say- if you want to know what the course content is like email me: Katrina.email@example.com
Emailed you. Dont know if its come through or not. Basically I just wated to know what the workload was like, did you get help financualy, is it a good route to become a teacher? Do you get asessed in school? What else do you qualify for?
If you are in primary school then it is a very good way to become a qualified teacher. Not so good if you are in secondary. You will still need the subject specialism, and I would recommend you do this with the OU or some other route.
It qualifies you to continue studying at a higher level. It also gives you a very good insight into the world of education from an academic point of view. Other than that it doesn't really qualify you for anything, and it isn't a full degree, it is only part of one.
Most schools offer some financial help and the university/college usually has some hardship funds. It is expensive though. Where I am it is £1100 pa.
Studying can be hard to fit in when you haven't done any for a while. But once you are used to it it is fine. Assignments are based around your working day so you have the material to hand, you just have to develop good practice and look at your job from a different view.
Go for it if you can afford it. It would be a shame to see it priced out of reach of those already on a low income.
Thanks, brown eyes. I am in a primary school and I was hoping it would help me to get qualifed as a teacher. I am a level 3 at the moment.
I noticed after the first year it qualifies you to a level 4, what job can you go for with that? Also after the second you are a level 5, what job would that get you? What do people go for if they are not taking it for the teacher route?
hubcap as a comparison, a PGCE is a level 7 qualification and a BEd or whatever they are called now are level 6. To do a secondary PGCE you need to have at least 50% of your degree in your chosen subject, I am not sure if that also applies to primary but suspect it might, you will need to check that with whichever university you want to go to. I'm afraid I don't know the entrance criteria for GTP but I doubt the foundation degree alone would be enough. You might find that you are better off going straight for a full degree.
You can do the FD and then do a one year top-up to honours in primary. So can have a degree in as little as three years. Secondary takes longer because of the subject element.
GTP takes you with an honours degree, they like it if you have had some responsibility in school and they DO look at your A levels, they like you to have some relevant to the NC.
The TDA website has lots of info and they are really helpful when you phone them.
I am starting a secondary GTP in Sept after studying for 5 years. I can't wait.
Well done and good luck!
So am I on the right route if I do the foundation defree, to get into teaching in a primary school?
I completed the Foundation Degree in Early Years in 2006, then continued on to the BA Hons Degree in Early Childhood Studies. I work in a primary school which allowed me to take one afternoon off a week to attend college. The college paid my school approx £500 each year to pay for cover staff. Due to my low salary i received financial support from my LEA. They paid my tuition fees and i received £250 per year towards books and travel expenses from student finances (which does not need to be repaid). Continuing on to the BA has encouraged me to further myself into teaching. I'm hoping to start the GTP in 2009. I found the Foundation Degree perfect in continuing my professional development and introducing me to the theories behind practice. Please don't hesitate in applying, it is very interesting and worthwhile. If you need any more information feel free to email me: firstname.lastname@example.org
thankyou orchid girl I will email you later if you dont mind.
I am just coming to the end of the first year of the F deg. I haven't found the workload too bad, but this will obviously increase over the next 2 years. I am hoping to top the F deg up to a BA Hons with QTS, but places are limited so I will see what the score is when I reach the end! I have found it really interesting so far, and it's great to meet other TAs who work in different schools. As far as funding goes, I received full funding for tuition fees from the LEA - I think they amounted to about £1900.
hi Hubcap, I am starting it in September, at EDGE HILL!!!! Have to say, I have heard very good things about Edge Hill so was surprised to read the comments, but obviously will take them on board. So far I have been happy with the initial process with them.
I plan to top it up in the third year to a full degree with QTS, but we shall see how it all goes. You can do that and become a primary school teacher. My school are paying my fees. The first and second year's are just over £1000 and the third year is £300 but that is because it is only one term. You then spend (I think) three terms preparing a portfolio for going on to the full degree.
There are elements for HLTA on the course, but you don't get automatic status, you still need to go through the usual process. Not sure if that is for me though as HLTA's seem to get so much stress.
I'm really looking forward to it and can do it locally at a satellite centre or choose flexible learning which is only five days face to face for the whole course.
Let me know if you want any further info.
oh and by the way, if you want to teach primary you still need to have GCSE maths and science at grade c or above. Though you don't need them to get on the course, you can go for an interview to be assessed.
Thanks caroline, the more I am reading, the more I like what I hear. However I did read somewhere that if you were born before 1979 you dont need a degree in science. I cant remember where now. I will try and google it later. Will keep in touch.
The ruling about not needing a Science GCSE if you were born before 1979 changed a year ago, you definately need it now. I've just finished my 2nd degree year and have been attending night school for Science at the same time, hard going but achievable
Hi i am finishing my second year of FD, it may give you a level4 after first year and level 5 after 2nd year, but doesn't mean you get paid that! My school still keeps me on level3, I only get level 4 for HLTA for PE, that equates to 60p an hour more for all the extra responsibility and work, guess who the mug is? FD is ok, but choose carefully which college you use, I was lucky to recieve a bursary for both years, it is worth applying early. Sweet potato
Thanks, I hated science at school! Is there any way round it?
Can it be a biology GCSE?
No Hubcap. I've delved quite deeply into this and CSE won't do. It has to be GCSE Grade C or above. You can do the lower papers though as you only need to get a C, I think it is foundation Maths and also combined sciences, which is easier than doing the three science subjects separately. My own kids did them both ways and the combined one is easier. Having said that though, some universities do their own tests called equavalency testing so you could look into that and see if they offer them. Just be careful you get it right. Some people are caught out when applying for their PGCE when they discover they need them.