Thanks for your last post optimistic1- I appreciated that. I think that those of us who are not supportive of EYFS as it stands, and who feel that they can actually see the naked emperor, are often treated by LEA advisors and the like as being cognitively challenged and are sent on courses aimed at less experienced staff and are given handouts and bright ideas to keep us in check. So when I feel a sniff of that happening on here I am very sensitive and like you respond more forcefully in the virtual world than back in reality. However as Ava says debate is good. Advisors don't seem to recognise that it is not that I don't understand EYFS pedagogy- it is that I don't agree with some of their interpretation of it and also that I don't feel that it can operate withi the financial constraints and lack of trained staff. This thread has been on the hot topic list on the home page all day, so has been brought to the attention of all posters, not just those on EY forum, so perhaps has generated more interest and hence the 6700 views. I am glad people beyond EY are interested in this topic as parents need to be aware of our dilemmas as teacher of their children. I have said before that it is the parents who have the truly independent voice and carry more clout than teachers .