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False allegations, disciplinary and early release...

Discussion in 'Personal' started by beatamizi, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Hi,


    I am fairly new to this forum, although I have used it many times for my
    interviews. The advice is always very good, so here I am in need of help with
    my current situation.


    I have been teaching in my current school for a year and a half as a Second
    in Science.


    I have moved to a new area due to my marriage breakdown, so I decided to
    have a new start for my kids and myself.


    After few months in my new school I have realised that it will be a rough ride.


    Students very abusive verbally and physically. Making false allegations
    against me. I have had oral warnings for very silly things like swearing at
    students (not true!), for pinching (not true!) and for leaving students
    unattended (this one has actually some true in it - I sent 4 students ahead of
    me to the ICT room and they went through a Fire door and head saw them there
    without the teacher).


    The Head decided to suspend me just before Christmas! After that I spoke to
    my Union and they gave an option of early release or going through another disciplinary.
    I took the first as I was sick and tired of being abused by kids.


    So now I am facing looking for a job with possibly a bad reference. My
    question: what are my chances? I have been applying like crazy, but only got
    one response back and an interview (tomorrow). How bad is it? What possibly
    could be written on my reference? Can I ask for a copy of my reference?


    The Head has a history of disciplinary against staff and giving bad
    references. Can I put a Senior Teacher instead of the Head?


    I have an excellent reference from my previous school, never has any allegations
    made against me.


    I am really worried as I have young children to support and no partner. What
    should I do, try supply?


    Thank you for your advice.




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  2. Hi,


    I am fairly new to this forum, although I have used it many times for my
    interviews. The advice is always very good, so here I am in need of help with
    my current situation.


    I have been teaching in my current school for a year and a half as a Second
    in Science.


    I have moved to a new area due to my marriage breakdown, so I decided to
    have a new start for my kids and myself.


    After few months in my new school I have realised that it will be a rough ride.


    Students very abusive verbally and physically. Making false allegations
    against me. I have had oral warnings for very silly things like swearing at
    students (not true!), for pinching (not true!) and for leaving students
    unattended (this one has actually some true in it - I sent 4 students ahead of
    me to the ICT room and they went through a Fire door and head saw them there
    without the teacher).


    The Head decided to suspend me just before Christmas! After that I spoke to
    my Union and they gave an option of early release or going through another disciplinary.
    I took the first as I was sick and tired of being abused by kids.


    So now I am facing looking for a job with possibly a bad reference. My
    question: what are my chances? I have been applying like crazy, but only got
    one response back and an interview (tomorrow). How bad is it? What possibly
    could be written on my reference? Can I ask for a copy of my reference?


    The Head has a history of disciplinary against staff and giving bad
    references. Can I put a Senior Teacher instead of the Head?


    I have an excellent reference from my previous school, never has any allegations
    made against me.


    I am really worried as I have young children to support and no partner. What
    should I do, try supply?


    Thank you for your advice.




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  3. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    I might suggest you ask this one in the heads forum..it will be interesting to see their reply
    Myself I am unsure as these days heads are getting fussy about who they employ with the wide chice they often have,You should have made it a condition of your early release that you will be given a clean reference.
    For work you can try supply, although its quite hard at the moment

    If you go on the dole you might find that as you left your job volountarily they wont pay you for so many weeks....... jubilee is the best to answer you here.....how ever you should be paid for the kids , and if they dont you apply for emergancy loans for food and warmth ( you have no food or feed in the fridge if they ask_ as you wont get it if you have some food in there).Or you can find charities to help.....its a bit of a bummer after you have worked and been dispatched in such an unsympathatically way. yet you do have to live and the main thing is to keep your kids and yorself warm and fed.However , the union was disgraceful in suggesting thes options and should have sought to fight your battle.
    i hope others will be able to advise your more correctly.
     
  4. FollyFairy

    FollyFairy Occasional commenter

    Really sorry to hear about your experience, though it does sound like you are better off out of there and away from crazy, controlling head!
    You can put a Subject Access request into either your school or the LEA, which means you are entitled to all the personal information they hold on you including seeing your reference, though I have to admit that I am very surprised that your union did not discuss an agreed reference with your HT along with the early release. http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/data_protection/subject_access_requests.aspx
    This would look a little dodgy to be honest as most applications ask for HT reference. However, if you have a good reference from previous school this should also be requested by any prospective employer as you had not been at above school for that long.
    Jan/Feb is a bit of slow month for jobs, plus there aren't many jobs out there but lots and lots of teachers applying - NQT's, unemployed teachers and those trying to secure a new post before March deadline... so lots of competition unfortunately Keep plugging away - seek advice from Jobsekers Forum, where Theo posts excellent advice! Plus copy and paste your post onto the Workplace Dilemma forum where you may get a bigger response from a wider audience who have been there and done that...
    Keep your head held high - you did the right thing taking early release; your future will be brighter!
     
  5. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Lead commenter

    Under safer recruitment guidelines the reference has to come from the HT.
     
  6. slippeddisc

    slippeddisc New commenter

    If you are still a member of the union you need to get them to talk to the head about a reference that won't hinder you getting a job. I know that talking to the union again is probably the last thing you want to do but you need to get this sorted to ensure your future. Email the union rep if you prefer.
    pm if you need to talk.
     
  7. littlemissraw

    littlemissraw Occasional commenter

    Well done & good luck on this - thats more than I've managed so your reference can't be too bad! x
     

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