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False accusations at school, disciplinary and early release...help please!

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by beatamizi, Feb 8, 2012.



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    Hi,


    I am fairly new to this forum, although I have used it many times for my
    interviews. The advice is always very good, so here I am in need of help with
    my current situation.


    I have been teaching in my current school for a year and a half as a Second in
    Science.


    I have moved to a new area due to my marriage breakdown, so I decided to
    have a new start for my kids and myself.


    After few months in my new school I have realised that it will be a rough ride.


    Students very abusive verbally and physically. Making false allegations
    against me. I have had oral warnings for very silly things like swearing at
    students (not true!), for pinching (not true!) and for leaving students
    unattended (this one has actually some true in it - I sent 4 students ahead of
    me to the ICT room and they went through a Fire door and head saw them there
    without the teacher).


    The Head decided to suspend me just before Christmas! After that I spoke to
    my Union and they gave an option of early release or going through another
    disciplinary. I took the first as I was sick and tired of being abused by
    kids.


    So now I am facing looking for a job with possibly a bad reference. My
    question: what are my chances? I have been applying like crazy, but only got
    one response back and an interview (tomorrow). How bad is it? What possibly
    could be written on my reference? Can I ask for a copy of my reference?


    The Head has a history of disciplinary against staff and giving bad
    references. Can I put a Senior Teacher instead of the Head?


    I have an excellent reference from my previous school, never has any
    allegations made against me.


    I am really worried as I have young children to support and no partner. What
    should I do, try supply?


    Thank you for your advice.



     


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    Hi,


    I am fairly new to this forum, although I have used it many times for my
    interviews. The advice is always very good, so here I am in need of help with
    my current situation.


    I have been teaching in my current school for a year and a half as a Second in
    Science.


    I have moved to a new area due to my marriage breakdown, so I decided to
    have a new start for my kids and myself.


    After few months in my new school I have realised that it will be a rough ride.


    Students very abusive verbally and physically. Making false allegations
    against me. I have had oral warnings for very silly things like swearing at
    students (not true!), for pinching (not true!) and for leaving students
    unattended (this one has actually some true in it - I sent 4 students ahead of
    me to the ICT room and they went through a Fire door and head saw them there
    without the teacher).


    The Head decided to suspend me just before Christmas! After that I spoke to
    my Union and they gave an option of early release or going through another
    disciplinary. I took the first as I was sick and tired of being abused by
    kids.


    So now I am facing looking for a job with possibly a bad reference. My
    question: what are my chances? I have been applying like crazy, but only got
    one response back and an interview (tomorrow). How bad is it? What possibly
    could be written on my reference? Can I ask for a copy of my reference?


    The Head has a history of disciplinary against staff and giving bad
    references. Can I put a Senior Teacher instead of the Head?


    I have an excellent reference from my previous school, never has any
    allegations made against me.


    I am really worried as I have young children to support and no partner. What
    should I do, try supply?


    Thank you for your advice.



     
  3. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    I am sorry that you are in such a difficult situation, both personally and professionally. Let's see what we can do here to help.
    Who knows? But it is likely that oral warnings will be included. However, you have the interview tomorrow, and unless they ring up to cancel, it cannot be that bad.
    You can ask the school who received it. Wait until you know if you have the job or not, however! In theory, they can only give you a limited bit of the reference, but in practice they may, may, give you all of it.
    entitled to see references?
    No. You could put him/her as well as, but not instead of. Sorry!
    You could, but it is hard going there - fewer and fewer supply hours available nowadays.
    Have you set up Job Alerts?

    * * * * How to set up a Job Alert * * * *But the good thing, the VERY good thing, is your interview tomorrow. This might just be it - so concentrate on that, and let us know how it goes.
    Best wishes
    ___________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Seminars. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
    I shall be doing the Win That Teaching Job seminar on Saturday February 25th, and also the Moving into Headship or SLT seminar on Saturday 18th February
    www.tesweekendworkshop87.eventbrite.com
    www.tesweekendworkshop82.eventbrite.com
     
  4. Thank you,
    I am preparing like mad. So many questions to find answers for.....
    I am optimistic, I will put the best show possible.
    What if they ask me about my disciplinary wornings? What is the best answer that I should give and how to avoid bad ones?
    Thank you
    PS I will definately let you know how it went.
     
  5. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    A good answer is one that is truthful, and shows that you have learned something from the experience.
    A bad one is defensive and aggressive.
    Best wishes
    _______________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Seminars. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.
    I shall be doing the Win That Teaching Job seminar on Saturday February 25th, and also the Moving into Headship or SLT seminar on Saturday 18th February
    www.tesweekendworkshop87.eventbrite.com
    www.tesweekendworkshop82.eventbrite.com
     
  6. really sorry to hear about your situation, and wishing you lots and lots of luck with your interview. I had a less than great reference from my last headteacher, and found there wasn't much I could do about it, even though I disagreed with it wholeheartedly. It took me nearly a year to get another job because of this (a number of headteachers who interviewed me mentioned it), but finally I came across a headteacher who trusted her own judgement more. In the meantime I've done quite a bit of supply, and found it worked wonders for my confidence and ability as a teacher.
     
  7. Thank you.
    What a day. I went to the interview well prepared, so I thought....
    Unfotunately I didn't get the job.....I am devastated and very tired.
    This was the only reply to many applications I have sent over the last month. What shall I do know I am beginning to really worry about us.
    The Head today told me that he was very confused about my reference from current Headteacher. It said that I have done many good things for the school, but when asked if she would employ me again, she said NO.
    I am waiting for more feedback tomorrow.
    Shall I register with supply agencies?
     

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