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Factual reference

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by stirchleyteacherno1, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. Hi
    I have been offered a teaching position and references were called but not from who I had put on my application form. One Head (who became acting after I left) confirmed my appointment dates but left the whole of the professional section blank (as he hadnt actually bserved me teaching) They did get a reference from my Head after this. Obviously this has caused concern though. However they also requested a reference from the school I taught at prior to this and again the reference was factual and as the SMT have retired the school wont add to this reference.I have supplied additional referees who can comment on my professional capability at this school. They have called references for the last 20 years (!) Overall they have three posisitve professioanl references but I am still waiting to see if they are prepared tocontinue with my appointment. I have sent an email to clarify which additional references they can ask for to cover the inadequate ones but have had now response. Have been told they may terminate my contract.
    Am really really worried. I have been employed on the factual reference (retired SMT) before. My Union are next to useless !
    Any advice would be great.

     
  2. Hi
    I have been offered a teaching position and references were called but not from who I had put on my application form. One Head (who became acting after I left) confirmed my appointment dates but left the whole of the professional section blank (as he hadnt actually bserved me teaching) They did get a reference from my Head after this. Obviously this has caused concern though. However they also requested a reference from the school I taught at prior to this and again the reference was factual and as the SMT have retired the school wont add to this reference.I have supplied additional referees who can comment on my professional capability at this school. They have called references for the last 20 years (!) Overall they have three posisitve professioanl references but I am still waiting to see if they are prepared tocontinue with my appointment. I have sent an email to clarify which additional references they can ask for to cover the inadequate ones but have had now response. Have been told they may terminate my contract.
    Am really really worried. I have been employed on the factual reference (retired SMT) before. My Union are next to useless !
    Any advice would be great.

     
  3. David Getling

    David Getling Lead commenter

    In deference to Theo, I must say that I am not senior management, and that he has vastly more experience in these matters than me.

    HOWEVER, I should imagine that the school offered you a job subject to satisfactory references. This constitutes a legally binding contract, and for the purpose of the contract the references in question are the ones YOU offered. The school may certainly make other inquiries, but unless they can PROVE that you have lied on your application then the contract is legally enforceable.
     
  4. missmunchie

    missmunchie New commenter

    It doesn't sound like the school contacted the people that were named as referees in this case.
     
  5. Hi
    Thanks for that. No the references called were not the ones I put on my application. Ive still heard nothing (has been eight days since the meeting)
    Forgot to mention the school is not state run - would that make a difference.?

     
  6. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    How frustrating!
    Certainly, if it is an independent school, it may have its own quirks.
    But employment law and the Government's Safer Recruitment stay the same.
    For jobs involving contact with children, including teaching of course, employers are specifically advised to contact anyone that they need to feel sure about your ability to be an effective and safe member of staff.
    Whether or not you gave them as referees.
    So I'm afraid that the point above
    isn't actually true. After all, you could give your partner and your best friend, or your Aunty Mavis!
    Plus there will be a lot of legal leeway in what constitutes a satisfactory reference . . .
    The problem is that statements of dates of employment - which is what you have - are sometimes used when a teacher has been subject to disciplinary or competency procedures, so unless these statements specifically said that you hadn't, there might be suspicion.
    You are also required by Safer Recruitment to give as a referee your current or most recent employer in a job involving children. I'm not sure whether or not you did that.
    However, let's hope that it all gets settled for you soon.
    Best wishes

    ___________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.
    Go to https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     

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