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Expectations of extra lessons

Discussion in 'Education news' started by Eflmeister, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. Eflmeister

    Eflmeister Occasional commenter

    On the one hand, Ofsted and the DfE say that reducing workload is a priority.

    On the other hand, I’ve just found this little gem from a very recent Ofsted report.

    “Additional lessons take place after school, in social time and in the school holidays. Teachers give pupils every chance to learn and achieve well.”

    Then they go on to judge pupil outcomes as RI.

    How can schools help reduce workload with such contradictory messages being issued by the big O? Other Heads may read that report and think that it’s necessary to get staff to do the same as “that’s what Ofsted like/want/demand/insert other verb here”

    I despair.
     
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  2. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Lead commenter

    I can just about live with the concept of helping out here or there. But this sounds too much.

    Presumably this means the "Additional lessons" were also evidenced with registers, planning, seating plans.......:eek:

    Can you name the school, the report is now in the public domain?
     
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  3. Eflmeister

    Eflmeister Occasional commenter

    I’d rather not name it here, sorry. What got me is that this is shown up to be a good thing then outcomes were judged RI, which just encourages all these extra lessons to become the norm. Pupils and teachers need a break.
     
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  4. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    Some friends were instructed by an assistant head to do extra lessons in the holiday. He also teaches in the department. On being asked if he was also doing revision classes, replied that his lessons were so good, his pupils didn't need any extra help.
    Funnily enough, I got some extra income a couple of years ago, tutoring one of his class.
     
  5. Eflmeister

    Eflmeister Occasional commenter

    I hope your friends told him where to go as I’m fairly certain you can’t be directed to teach in the holidays. Please correct me if I’m wrong someone.
     
  6. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    Your Union can confirm this, but - if the school follows the 'Burgundy Book' conditions of service - you can only be directed on 195 days (190 teaching + 5 INSET), and that doesn't include weekends/holidays.

    But, if your school is an Academy, you may need to check the details of your contract.
     
  7. Eflmeister

    Eflmeister Occasional commenter

    I suppose this is the problem. Academies can make staff work all hours and holidays are no longer protected if the contract says so. Ridiculous.
     
  8. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    Contracts have to be agreed. I think an Academy that wrote one saying that all staff had to work at any time during any school holiday would face a lot of flack. I've not heard of any such school (but I am retired and 'out of the loop', perhaps).
     
  9. Jolly_Roger12

    Jolly_Roger12 Occasional commenter

    Not this old chestnut again! I suppose 'extra help' for individual students might be justified, if carried out by additional staff, but surely regular 'extra lessons' devalues ordinary timetabled lessons in the eyes of the students.

    @phlogiston. Your AH wins the 'smug b*st*rd' of the week award.
     
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  10. moscowbore

    moscowbore Occasional commenter

    Academy contracts contain the old, "...any reasonable request ..", clause. I never worked holidays.

    Teachers all too often give in to this nonsense.
     
  11. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    There is no point in giving extra revision lessons after school, weekends or holidays, etc, it just gives students the impression they don't have to bother too much with the subject content the first time round
     
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  12. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    Fortunately, he is not "my" AH. Unfortunately the dynamics in their school are complicated. The AH has a reputation of knowing so much that he never needs or bothers to listen to anyone.
     
  13. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    See, I wouldn’t despair, I’d quit, start tutoring and mop up the extra business. Oh...hang on, I’m already doing this! Interventions don’t always work. My students won’t go to them as hardly any turn up and the same problems are there: disillusioned overworked teachers who don’t have subject and syllabus mastery, the right resources or the pedagogical experience to push the kids through the grade C/level 5/level 4/have a gold star barrier. They will have to quietly drop these sessions soon, when the number of cheap teachers quitting hits over 100,000. By then, the Learning Shed Five Year Plans will be well underway, so they can slap the kids in there instead. The ones who turn up, anyway.
     
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  14. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Haha, SNAP! Oh the hypocritical irony. Do it full time and you never have to see their self-deluded irritating selves again! The kids know about the hypocrisy, believe me. A lot, anyway..
     
  15. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Yes! And aren’t academies meant to be making these bold citizens of the future empowered, self-critical and robustly resilient self -directed learners? Off you go then, kids...library’s that way...
     
  16. Catgirl1964

    Catgirl1964 New commenter

    Sadly it is becoming the norm for 'extra' revision session. It used to be the case, many years ago, when students revised at home themselves but, unfortunately, this can no longer be relied upon. Students know they can coast during lessons because these sessions are made available. As we all know, schools are judged to a large extent by their results and 'progress' made so are all in competition with one another. When schools offer extra lessons, the bar is raised and other schools feel obliged to also offer these lessons to get the best results possible. However, research has shown that a good teacher only has a 15 percent influence on any student's results, the other 85 percent is attributed to attitude, effort and parental support. As the saying goes, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear! Unless league tables are discontinued, I can envisage an increase in the pressure to offer extra curricular work.
     
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  17. Jolly_Roger12

    Jolly_Roger12 Occasional commenter

    Extra lessons after school, and revision sessions, are becoming the norm, these days. It is certainly eating into my side line as a private tutor.
     
  18. Robfreeman

    Robfreeman Occasional commenter

    My contact sets that as the minimum
     
  19. David Getling

    David Getling Senior commenter

    This always makes me laugh. Firstly, teachers should have the guts to say NO! Secondly, as I point out to my students, if a teacher/school can't get it right during normal lesson time then extra lessons (usually near exam time) are going to make precious little difference.
     
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  20. woollani

    woollani Occasional commenter

    It is known as period 6. More fool those teachers that do it (for free).
     

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