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Discussion in 'Teaching overseas' started by pocketrocket, Feb 6, 2009.
Just a few questions to think about!
My post wasn't meant as an insult or to
demean you in any way. All I was saying was that the best way of
testing out CV's and Letters of Application is by applying for jobs.
Let's see if we can answer some of your points:
Having sat on interview panels and had a hand in shortlisting for international jobs, I can honestly say that in my experience the formatting doesn't matter one jot. The important points are always keep it within 2 pages for the CV and one side for the letter. Content is king. Either your qualifications come first or your work experience - it really doesn't matter. What matters is that both are mentioned and in detail.
Your CV also has to check out.
Don't quote someone as a referee who has no idea of your current teaching and you only met on a course 3 years ago, just because they sound eminent.
Don't point to links on websites and blogs. No-one is going to go there.
Don't use multi-coloured paper as it is really annoying to photocopy, so no-one will bother.
Don't say you are interested in the position of teacher of mathematics when the post is for a teacher of physics.
Don't write Dear Sir or Madam, when it should be addressed to the name of a person.
Don't mention you won 17 boy scout badges. Really no-one is that interested.
Or in the fact that you were a school prefect.
Do mention ALL your work history and relevant qualifications.
When it asks for email, fax and telephone numbers of 3 referees, then it means all of the aforementioned. If you cannot be bothered finding out the details then someone will not be bothering to get in touch.
Don't mention the name of another school. It really doesn't impress.
Parent references are worth less than the paper they are written on.
Don't apply for a job as a teacher of whatever if you only have a passing acquaintance with the subject. Teaching a subject for one class a week does not make you a teacher of that subject to all levels.
Don't write some mickey mouse cod-philosophical rubbish about being a forward thinking individual wanting to work in a forward looking institution, ready to reap the rewards of your knowledge. It has been seen more times than you would believe. Stick to what the job spec requires and how you fulfill it.
Most schools DO NOT give feedback. That is because once someone has been hired they are too busy sorting out all the paperwork for visas etc. etc. to worry about those who fell by the wayside. It might sound tough but you are really not important any more.
Every one of the points mentioned above has been seen by me on many an occasion.
And the bottom line - If you cannot operate the search facility on this website, do you really think you are ready to go through the process of acclimatizing to a new country?
Just a few points for you to think about.
Once again I wish you all the best with applying for jobs. We have all had to start somewhere, and know the process you are going through.
Read and take heed of the advice of Theo Griff and Mainwaring. They have an awful lot of experience in this game.
is there any chance you could email me that cv template for international schools???? would really appreciate it! thanks
<font size="2">I've always gone with the idea that a CV contains the facts, a summary if you like, or maybe a nice index/contents page for what you've been doing with yourself. The personal statement is where you sell yourself. I haven't much experience of writing/reading CV's in the teaching profession except my own and one or two friends but before teaching I was involved in the revealing process of sifting through CV's and application letters for part of my job and I hated, HATED, long wordy CV's. Covering letters and personal statements should be interesting but first I'd look at the CV, can they do the job? Then the letter, which is, do I want them to do the job? Are they suited to the working environment? Does this sound like someone everyone else will be able to work with?</font>
That's just my opinion though, I could be very wrong and I'll hold my hands up and accept all the people who disagree with me but as far as I know (which is probably very little) it's never done me any harm.
The only reason I've posted all this gibberish is that everyone seems to panic about CV formatting so much and I can't understand why, keep it simple and to the point.
Thanks for those tips Karvol. I've been guilty of a couple of them myself and now know to stop.
Are you speaking from a secondary viewpoint? I have a link to a website on mine, and some schools, particularly PYP ones, have checked it out and commented on it.
I'm intrigued about the parent references comment though. Some agencies actually demand them. Is this a love them or hate them situation?
I teach at the secondary level, and have no experience of primary, so I cannot comment on them.
Teaching one to one ( which is what private tuition is ) bears no relation to teaching a full class. Hence parental recommendations, while pleasant enough, bear no weight when it comes to job candidate selection ( in my experience ).
In addition, the schools I have taught in would not hire someone who could not muster together at least two professional referees.
Oh, I thought you meant parental references from parents of kids in your class. Wanting their impressions of you, your teaching and their child's happiness and progress in your class I can understand, as some private schools are VERY parent-driven.
Must be like the portfolio thing....some schools want 'em, other have no time for 'em.
I need another excellent sample of CV please.