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Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by dauralora, Sep 14, 2017.
Probably as there is still admin and crowd control, but, this time, for a reason!
I was a police officer for 6 years before becoming a teacher. Much prefer teaching... although really wish I could go back to a clear 8 / 10 /12 hour day, rather than the open ended work till you drop nature of teaching.
This would be my dream job...its just hard to know where to start...
I left 18 months ago. Worked for a while doing marketing then got made redundant. Now doing supply. Can’t get a job back in teaching as I’ve been out of it too long and was on UPS (therefore expensive), can’t get a job out of it as nobody will interview me with a largely teaching-focused CV. It’s pretty rubbish.
Don't give up. Not sure what your subject is but I left teaching wo years ago and recently applied for an AH job and got an interview. There are schools out there that will consider you.
Leave - I worked in secondary for 13 years. Gradually, I realised that jumping through hoops, preserving the reputation of the school (esp. by covering up or not talking about bad things), being screwed over by senior staff over teachers (and senior staff getting away with it because this is how it is deliberately structured - people who get paid more must be correct...) and all the myriad forms of hypocrisy, backbiting etc. convinced me to quit. I'm now a college lecturer and my work life is a dream compared to school. Almost no stress - imagine that ! I look forward to going into work every day, because I know staff just get on with doing their jobs, nobody spies on you (because they trust you) and I don't need to take work home with me (plenty of non-contact time during the work day).
I left and then went back. It’s not easy getting the same pay outside of teaching and although I enjoyed my job I had to have several extra jobs to keep things ticking over. At one point I had 4. I also worked 12 hours a day 5 days a week so it’s not all roses. I don’t regret doing it at all, though.
Anyway I ended up doing supply (I’ll never teach again!) then got taken on permanently (I only ever want to be a class teacher!) then promoted to middle leadership (obviously I’m now officially evil...). Taking a break is good but a change can be just as worthwhile.
Edit: I only work directed time. Take a full one hour lunch break and never miss out on PPA.
Civil Service. Worth having a look at their website. Plenty of specialist careers you've never heard off but just as many generalist roles. Made the switch after 12 years teaching secondary English. Less money but not about to have a break down/launch a Jack Reacher style attack of vengeance on my head of department.
Just an update for anyone interested. If you look back, you'll see that I had made the decision to resign and leave at the end of the summer term. I was stressed, tired and needed to unwind and not think about school so I rather enjoyed a quiet summer. I didn't really do much. Felt really jaded and shocked at the whole experience (new Head in an Academy chain - treated appallingly). Also felt a sense of shame and guilt that I had resigned after not too long in my post. I just couldn't go on. All my friends, bf and family recognised the stress I was under and it was certainly taking it's toll.
I felt a little sad during the run-up to INSET and those first few weeks in Sptember. After 20 odd years in schools, this September felt very different. I felt a little odd with everyone at school and I was at home. Towards the end of September, I began to get a little antsy. All the agencies were saying it was the start of September so things were quiet. Note: I was registering with education and non-educational agencies. Open to any work opportunities really. Was more ready to accept something non school based but each time I sent over my CV it was clear that the agencies (non teaching) were sticking me at the bottom of the pile. I don't think they bothered to even consider the skills that I do have that are transferable and I don't think I did myself any favours by not adjusting my CV - but at the end of the day - Its a teaching/SLT CV. I have no other work experience outside of working in schools.
So far, I haven't been able to secure anything. Even 25k admin jobs, other people are being selected ahead of me. I've applied for a few LEA roles (which have been few and far between in the current climate of such meagre budgets) and I didn't get them. Agencies never ring back. I scour the net daily. As I'm not necessarily looking for a teaching post trying to secure something else is not easy. I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place. I REALLY DO NOT want to go back into schools but my money is running out and I do need to get some sort of income.
I'm writing this as I'm 'in the middle' of it all. Often people retell their stories with a happy ending or after they have secured something. I have neither. Yet
I'm being very frugal with funds and it will be a very different Christmas this year. I just don't know what the future holds for me at this present moment. I've swapped on stress for another but so glad I'm not at that school. It was an awful experience and I did seek therapy for a short while as my confidence and mental health was affected so badly.
So this is not to deter anyone - just giving a realistic view of my life currently. Maybe I haven't been lucky or haven't been smart in the places where I have been looking for jobs. But just thought I'd post just to let others know - where I am currently at the moment.
Anyone else like to update?
Hi - this is similar to my story I posted last week (see thread).
I can’t express too the stress of struggling financially and the uncertainty of not knowing when a job will come up! It is so similar to teaching ... I left teaching knowing it was definitely in my best interests but I honestly didn’t think it would be this hard to find a job that pays about 20k a year but it really is! Where I live, there’s just not many posts that come up. So when I don’t get the job I was interviewed for, I know it’ll be another 3 months until something comes up.
I hope you find a job soon - Good luck xx
It's so tough. Were you a Headteacher too? Couldn't find your previous posting as mentioned. I feel demoralised and embarrassed. Titles aren't everything, but to go from a Head and not be able to get a 22k office job severely affected me. I feel totally lost. But although I don't regret my choice to leave, I just didn't realise, how hard it would be to investigate other career/job options.
I feel totally stuck. And not sure which way to turn.
Sorry for your situation. It sounds just as scary as mine. I'm trying hard to relish this 'down' time, but I miss working and having a purpose each day. I walk for miles just to get out of the house.
I've not given up and neither should you. Keep trying. I have no choice but to!
Thinking of you.x DM me at anytime if you need to.
No I wasn’t - I was a class teacher. I totally get what you’re saying I really do. I am not someone who I thought was bothered with titles and things like that but I feel like I have taken a lot of steps back in some ways. Quite a lot - I have 3 brilliant degrees and I earn minimum wage (which I’m lucky to have a job but I feel anxious about lack of money). And I guess the higher the ladder you were up - it does feel like a long way down. But I guess for us and others like us, it’s a new life we’ve chosen and that’s worth embracing the pros and cons and finding where we fit in the world again. If you’re ok financially - would volunteering help?
I know a lot of people talk about transferable skills from teaching and certainly from head teaching but they are very role specific and it’s a tough climate out there. And it’s hard to know where to start. I’ve had a few interviews now and have had excellent feedback but I think this is the norm now from what I hear - most seem to go through this exhausting process regardless of what they do.
Is there something you like to do career wise? Would you consider retraining? I know my masters killed me - but it did give me purpose, I made some great friends and took my mind off the job situation and I do have more jobs open to me now ... just have to get one.
Any way I wish you so much luck with what you’re doing. And thank you for your support. DM whenever you want to.
You’re not alone, I promise Xxx
What do you mean even 25k admin jobs? There is no such thing as a 25k admin job, they are mostly 16-19k, and even seems to mean you think 25k is not a lot of money. Well it is. Teachers only get 10k a year more than this.
Basically, if you are a teacher, you are virtually unemployable to non-schools.
We have 0 transferable skills to employers. They think 'lazy, incompetant, moaning' about teachers.
If you didn't do your degree in a non-teaching subject then don't leave teaching!
25k is a DREAM salary for an ex-teacher!!! You will be lucky to beat a school leaver's salary.
I think it’s starting a new ladder again. My job pays minimum wage roughly and I’m lucky to have that. But the experience I’ve gained from this is very valuable - I’m no longer a teacher.
I am eyeing up SEN LA/ mental health/ pastoral roles which pay ok- anywhere from 18-26k. I’ve had a few interviews now and I’m close to getting them every time.
I do think to obtain these kinds of good jobs - not too stressful and no planning etc like teaching, you’ve got to probably take on a poorly paid job before hand to get experience.
Obviously if you’re a head - you have got so many skills it’s unreal. But they need to trust that you’re not going to get bored and go elsewhere - so commitment to a less paid role might be the trick...
I got a job pretty quickly after leaving.
I did a 3 year teaching degree so no other expertise.
I earn more than 25k
(just for balance)
After 4 years teaching, I left the classroom to take up a job as a programme coordinator with an education charity and I now work in diversity and inclusion in a trade union and professional association.
It's been a hard road but hugely rewarding, my mental and physical health has never been better, and it hasn't been as financially punitive as it might have been!
I'd love to help others who are thinking of making the same journey - I think what is lacking is real, usable and relevant practical advice about sectors outside of education.
I'm looking to start up a service of this kind more formally, but in the meantime, if you want to be a guinea pig as I scope out some ideas, and get some support and guidance from me, please do get in touch!
I’m on maternity leave and training up as an antenatal and post natal workshop teacher. Also running baby classes like yoga, sensory and baby massage.xx
If you have any experience of English as an additional language look at pathway colleges that teach international students to gain entry to university. I did this (for science) and although I took a bit of a pay cut to do so it was well worth it as much less teaching time and workload.
If you are near a big city with universities have a look into companies that provide these services. Two of the big ones are Kaplan and study group. check their websites for vacancies.
'10K more than 25K', took me 7/8 years to earn, too.