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Ex teachers - what do you do Now?

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by dauralora, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. FredfromFrance

    FredfromFrance New commenter

    what did you retrain in? that sounds awesome!
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  2. tibbycam

    tibbycam New commenter

    It's 2am and I am supposed to be up for work at 6am yet I am laid awake undecided of whether to go to work tomorrow.
    I work in a new academy and have been there two years. Before that I was a supply for a number of years. Since being where I am I have struggled with the sheer amount of marking (English) and this is not my specialist subject.
    I have had positive lesson observations except for my last one which I was not mentally prepared for. I have been told I would receive support but that never happened.
    So last week we had a CPD session where we were placed into five groups. No-one was advised what the groups were going to be doing. I was group 4. Walking back to my room after my session I noticed everyone in groups 1,2 and 3 had been awarded a certificate and letters of thank you from students. Groups 4 and 5 were given nothing...
    This has created a divide in the school and is effecting me more than I realise, but I feel like I am stuck as I suffer with vertigo and cannot drive so have to live close to where I work. I am not usually a worrier but I DO NOT wish to be in a workplace where management are willing to do that to people.
    I have looked at working in/with mental health as I am a qualified counsellor. The kids are great and my behaviour management skills are excellent so they are not the problem. What SLT have done is unjust and I feel this is only the beginning.
    The executive head is supposed to leave us in July so I would like to try and stick it out to see what happens but I have no intentions staying in this profession long term. I just feel mis-placed and unappreciated and the fact I am unable to drive currently is a big impact as I couldnt even go supplying for a bit.
    I have two observations this coming week and really cannot be bothered.
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  3. Foux da fa fa

    Foux da fa fa New commenter

    Our SLT once did a training day and put the staff at certain tables. As the day progressed, we noticed they were payscale tables. It felt hideous. All M1 on one table, right up to the UPS3. It caused lots of problems. Most of the UPS3 table have since left or are currently under scrutiny. Two years ago, the head e-mailed a list to all staff that had each teaching staff member’s payscale on it. It was a list that again caused lots of problems. Devalued those on lower pay and made those on UPS targeted.
  4. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Lead commenter

    I hope someone reported the head to the data commissioner under the DPA. Idiot.
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  5. AnotherDayTowardsRetirement

    AnotherDayTowardsRetirement Occasional commenter

    Woke up this morning to hear the tragic news that my last HoD had died over the weekend. Took his own life. He was 42. Was it the job? Most likely.

    I left his school last June. When I was there he’d had a run of bad exam results (his own classes and as a dept) and was told by the HT that “staff here are only as good as their results, no excuses here”. Pupils wise, the dept was top heavy with the bottom 20% achievers and 80% behaviour cases (a ‘sink group’!?) but with little SLT and/TA support. Colleagues were at their wits end. I know the summer results were poor and he’d been under increasing scuntiny. He was told that if results stayed poor the dept would be ‘sacrificed’ as it could not continue to ‘drag the school down’.

    I know little about his life outside school as he was too stressed to share anything other than a work focus but I do know he repeatedly told me he couldn’t afford to resign as he needed the money. He leaves behind a wife and teenage daughter. Terribly sad. The school system pushed him over the edge. The school system killed him.

    Anyone reading this who is considering leaving the profession, this is an extreme case of why you should do everything in your power to get a job away from teaching.

    I retired early on health grounds in June. It took me until Xmas to realise just how ill the profession had made me. My mental and physical health are now far far better now I’ve escaped the job.

    Get out ! Just do it my friends.
  6. Shedman

    Shedman Star commenter

    With apologies to Martin Niemoller

    First they came for the UPS3s
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a UPS3.

    Then they came for the UPS2s
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a UPS2.

    Then they came for the UPS1s
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a UPS1.

    Then they came for me
    and said they'd keep me on
    as long as I didn't apply
    to cross the threshold.
  7. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Your poem basically summarises the last two years of my job. What a joke. The absolute nadir was being offered a job i was way too qualified for...of course, I would have done it, really well, was about to accept...then they said they coukd only pay me main scale 5 after I had spent the past ten years on UPS3. M5! I did the Maths and quickly realised I was better off self employed. I mean...a drop like thst is just insulting. We have got to the stage now where you either accept awful pay and conditions or accept indie schools with slightly better conditions in some of them but still meh salary pay. So it’s the little luxury of whether a teacher who is finally mortgage and debt free can actually afford to return to the career they once had which has since been dumbed down to a mcjob.
  8. thekillers1

    thekillers1 Lead commenter

    Great way to increase tension amongst staff. Also, what did the data protection act say about this?

    One school whom I’d worked for wanted me to drop the UPS1 but I had refused to protect other teachers. Looking back, I should have not bothered as they’ve stabbed me in the back. Hope they never contact me.
  9. BoldAsBrass

    BoldAsBrass New commenter

    Haven't left yet but simplified my career by just teaching (no SLT baggage)

    More time, so I also set up as a private music teacher in my own time and currently in the process of opening a 2nd business venture, which may actually take me out of the full-time career in the future, where i may juggle day-to-day supply, music tuition and the new business to earn my crust.

    Not sure i could give it up altogether, it's all i ever wanted to do. The difference is now I'm doing it on my terms so that it works for me not against me.
  10. Shedman

    Shedman Star commenter

    Good luck with your tuition and your new business venture. When you're expanding and looking for new staff then be sure to employ ex-teachers. You won't find a better workforce. Trust them to do a good job and let them get on with it, they won't let you down.
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  11. BoldAsBrass

    BoldAsBrass New commenter

    I have SO many teacher & TA friends asking if we will be taking on ... I'll certainly have a few ex-colleagues in mind if we do :)
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  12. Thespirit82

    Thespirit82 New commenter

    I’m going to work for a charity as an education officer - so going into schools and delivering workshops and training teachers
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  13. thekillers1

    thekillers1 Lead commenter

    And how this statement helps us?
  14. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    When I leave...................this year...............I'm concentrating on the two books I am writing, and building up my baking business. Might do a spot of supply is I need a few extra ££££ but that's it.
    Bring it on!
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  15. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    It answered the question posed in the OP
  16. Ballerina33

    Ballerina33 New commenter

    How did he get funding to do that?
  17. hammie

    hammie Lead commenter

    told by the HT that “staff here are only as good as their results, no excuses here”.
    So the HT is ultimately responsible, no excuses.
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  18. Sinnamon

    Sinnamon Established commenter

    Sounds wonderful.
    Best of luck!
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  19. b6034418

    b6034418 New commenter

    This is something I’d love to do, who do you work for and how did you get into it
  20. LPC3

    LPC3 New commenter

    I left teaching last summer and now work for a charity. The contrast between the two sectors has been nothing short of a culture shock. In my current role I am treated well, valued and continually learning new things with real opportunities for progression. I am very happy with my decision.

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